What Car Is This Engine From?

[pugmarshall 4 1 Cars]

I found this code on my head; 9610923010, I've found out it's a 1360cc TU unit - in my 1.1 Junior...

 

But from exactly what car? After the above numbers it reads "21" but underlined.

 

It also has 3 circles in which the following are stamped; C then 5 (or C5) and 11 then 93 with no circle, which I guess refers to the year?

 

Also, it's on a Weber Carb and has a 55mm manifold.

 

Hopefully someone can shed some light!

 

Luke

Edited May 13, 2012 by pugmarshall

[johnnyboy666 195 1 Cars]

from a quick google, would suggest that it was either from a 205 or 306

i'd guess 205 if its a carb, maybe from xt, gr, cj?

[pugmarshall 4 1 Cars]

I did a quick google search, but, It's definitely not a 306 engine and the engine in question has Citroen badges on lots of random pipes.

 

Maybe from an AX? Or a 205, like you say, but someone has replaced the pipes previously? It's mainly coolant related pipes with Citroen badges, do any Citroens share coolant pipes with a 205? It looks very OE...

[pugmarshall 4 1 Cars]

I' ve been searching the internet for ages, and I think I've found out what it's from...

 

It's got two pipes leaving the left of the plastic box on top of the Carb but the AX's haven't... So I thought it might be from a 205, but IIRC they only came with distributors in 1360cc, and this one is a coil pack.

 

Then I remembered that the early, and I mean very early, 306's had carbs and coilpacks, and this engine is stamped 1993 which would make sense. Then I remembered this engine has several Citroen badges on so I then looked onto the 306's Citroen variant, which brings me to the only logic explanation I can think of...

 

A 1993 1.4 Citroen ZX.

 

Anyone think I might be onto something there?

Edited May 15, 2012 by pugmarshall

[eLi_205 0]

yes the ZX shares alot of the 205 parts.. so it makes sense that the pipes fit perfectly though it's says "Citroen" on them.

[S@m 156]

I have seen many a peugeot with citroen badges on the pipes/hoses and vice versa, it doesnt really mean anything imo, they just grab anything at the factory.

 

Sam

[welshpug 1,661]

I doubt a 93 ZX would have had a carb, SPI maybe.

[pugmarshall 4 1 Cars]

I have seen many a peugeot with citroen badges on the pipes/hoses and vice versa, it doesnt really mean anything imo, they just grab anything at the factory.

 

Sam

 

You're right, they do grab anything at the factory, but no Peugeot 205's and Citroens in 1993 were made in the same factory.

 

Welshpug, I can't find any cars with Carb and coil pack from 1993. I think it's just a load of old random s*it thrown together to get it running by one of it's many previous owners!

Edited May 17, 2012 by pugmarshall

[S@m 156]

You're right, they do grab anything at the factory, but no Peugeot 205's and Citroens in 1993 were made in the same factory.

 

Yes, the cars weren't assembled in the same factory, but i imagine all the pipes came from the same manufacturer - obviously this is just a guess on my part, but i imagine PSA would consolidate everything they could to one supplier to keep costs down. I could be absolutely wrong, but i will add that i have seen numerous 80's/90's peugeots (405's/205's/306's) with citroen branded pipes.

 

Either way, as you say, it could just be a random engine combo thrown together by a previous owner.

 

Sam

Edited May 18, 2012 by Sam306

[jonXS 30 1 Cars]

have you thought that it could be from a 106 possibly?

do you know what the carb is? a webber or a solex

[allye 530 3 Cars]

have you thought that it could be from a 106 possibly?

do you know what the carb is? a webber or a solex

 

As stated in the first post, a weber!

 

I'm just going to throw this out there, I think its been basterdised with the carb from an earlier car and the engine/ignition from a slightly later car?

[jonXS 30 1 Cars]

whoops should fully read the posts sorry

[pugmarshall 4 1 Cars]

It's a Weber, on a 1360 head and I've just found a plate with HDZ PTC on the block, which is a 1.1 from an AX/309...

 

I give up, as long as it runs I don't care!

 

Does this mean anything to anyone; 3431140021 (81) 15-T?

Edited May 18, 2012 by pugmarshall

[S@m 156]

EDIT - Should have read the whole thing.

Edited May 19, 2012 by Sam306

[johnnyboy666 195 1 Cars]

I'd imagine the block may be the original one, as the ax/309 used the same one (i think) in 1.1 format. then maybe the top end was swapped for something else for either convenience or power reasons. Assuming it runs ok, I wouldnt worry what it is exactly