p1234 22 2 Cars Posted April 3, 2012 Anybody rallying a 1.6 gti with 309 wishbones and 1.6 shafts without any issue? Im not looking to open a can of beans on this topic, I know some say its ok some not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
welshpug 1,646 Posted April 3, 2012 Im not looking to open a can of beans on this topic. too late Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
p1234 22 2 Cars Posted April 3, 2012 I was hoping to get a sneeky topic started than delete it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Fenton 1,536 Posted April 3, 2012 I know some say its ok some not. And there you have the answer so why start a new topic? Some have done it and been OK, others have had shafts pop out which is game over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
p1234 22 2 Cars Posted April 3, 2012 Every 1.6 shaft/ hub, 309 wishbone are made to the same diamensions so why does it happen to some and not to others, Im just asking if anyone has had it happen while rallying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
allanallen 528 2 Cars Posted April 3, 2012 Every 1.6 shaft/ hub, 309 wishbone are made to the same diamensions so why does it happen to some and not to others, Aftermarket shafts vary in length more than you think! Fit the wishbones/shaft/hub etc without a spring fitted, you can then check the shaft through the suspension travel with varying amounts of lock on. If you think they're too short you can space the shaft at the hub end if your really on a budget. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anthony 1,002 Posted April 3, 2012 Every 1.6 shaft/ hub, 309 wishbone are made to the same diamensions so why does it happen to some and not to others Those magic words "tolerances" and "variations" As an example, when you're fitting an engine/gearbox, there's a degree of left and right movement that you can take advantage of to give additional cambelt cover clearance for the MC on 16v conversions. That could easily be 10mm or more, which is the difference between a 205 and 309 driveshaft... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baz 421 Posted April 3, 2012 You're presuming all 205's are the same, they are NOT! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shalmaneser 26 Posted April 8, 2012 I was running 1.6 hubs + D/S with 309 wishbones, they were absolutely fine but I certainly wasn't rallying it! Does that help? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
p1234 22 2 Cars Posted April 8, 2012 I've fitted them to my gti6 for a track day tomorrow, see how they go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris H 10 Posted April 8, 2012 Hope you haave a trouble free track day and have a good fun day. I've always run 309 shafts but thats because i've always run then and proved to be touble free so see no reason to use a 205 length shaft. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
p1234 22 2 Cars Posted April 9, 2012 Was like a different car through the corners, seriously wet day but sailed around all day like it was dry out, Advise anybody on track with a 205 to fit these, completly transformed the cornering ability of the car. Very wishy washy steering, took a bit of getting used to, really had to work the steering wheel but as soon as I got a sus of it it was flying. Yet again a 205 puts a smile on my face. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
welshpug 1,646 Posted April 9, 2012 did you adjust the tracking after fitting them? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
p1234 22 2 Cars Posted April 9, 2012 Eh nop, never even came into my head to do the tracking Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
welshpug 1,646 Posted April 9, 2012 that'll be why the steering was rather "odd" you'll be running 10mm of toe out, each side! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
p1234 22 2 Cars Posted April 9, 2012 Ha Ha ooops, better see to that! Still though serious cornering ability even on a water logged track. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
welshpug 1,646 Posted April 9, 2012 heh, I just got my brother to do a very rough guesstimate on a graphics drawing programme as to how far out the tracking would be, 27mm toe out, each side! ROFLMAO 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnnyboy666 195 1 Cars Posted April 9, 2012 how did you go in a straight line!!?? I attempted to just move my car forward two feet after changing mine over and the wheels just fought against each other! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
p1234 22 2 Cars Posted April 9, 2012 Car pulled straight as an arrow on the straight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kenp 3 Posted April 17, 2012 No probs with the driveshafts then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
p1234 22 2 Cars Posted April 28, 2012 No hassle with the drive shafts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
allanallen 528 2 Cars Posted April 28, 2012 Are you sure you've not just fitted another set of 205 wishbones? Without considerably lengthening the TREs it would of been un-drivable and very, very noticeable to look at! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skinner2k3 3 Posted May 1, 2012 I also found the 309 arms made a very noticable difference. How you drove it without adjusting the tracking is odd. I hade mine set parallel with 205 arms, fitted the 309 arms and could barely drive the thing 1/2 mile to the garage to get it tracked! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shalmaneser 26 Posted May 6, 2012 I also found the 309 arms made a very noticable difference. How you drove it without adjusting the tracking is odd. I hade mine set parallel with 205 arms, fitted the 309 arms and could barely drive the thing 1/2 mile to the garage to get it tracked! +1 sketchy would be one way to describe it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
