309 Wishbones On 1.6

[p1234 22 2 Cars]

Anybody rallying a 1.6 gti with 309 wishbones and 1.6 shafts without any issue?

 

 

Im not looking to open a can of beans on this topic, I know some say its ok some not.

[welshpug 1,655]

Im not looking to open a can of beans on this topic.

 

too late

[p1234 22 2 Cars]

I was hoping to get a sneeky topic started than delete it

[Tom Fenton 1,540]

I know some say its ok some not.

 

And there you have the answer so why start a new topic? Some have done it and been OK, others have had shafts pop out which is game over.

[p1234 22 2 Cars]

Every 1.6 shaft/ hub, 309 wishbone are made to the same diamensions so why does it happen to some and not to others,

 

Im just asking if anyone has had it happen while rallying.

[allanallen 528 2 Cars]

Every 1.6 shaft/ hub, 309 wishbone are made to the same diamensions so why does it happen to some and not to others,

 

 

Aftermarket shafts vary in length more than you think!

 

Fit the wishbones/shaft/hub etc without a spring fitted, you can then check the shaft through the suspension travel with varying amounts of lock on. If you think they're too short you can space the shaft at the hub end if your really on a budget.

[Anthony 1,002]

Every 1.6 shaft/ hub, 309 wishbone are made to the same diamensions so why does it happen to some and not to others

Those magic words "tolerances" and "variations"

 

As an example, when you're fitting an engine/gearbox, there's a degree of left and right movement that you can take advantage of to give additional cambelt cover clearance for the MC on 16v conversions. That could easily be 10mm or more, which is the difference between a 205 and 309 driveshaft...

[Baz 421]

You're presuming all 205's are the same, they are NOT!

[shalmaneser 26]

I was running 1.6 hubs + D/S with 309 wishbones, they were absolutely fine but I certainly wasn't rallying it!

 

Does that help?

[p1234 22 2 Cars]

I've fitted them to my gti6 for a track day tomorrow, see how they go.

[Chris H 10]

Hope you haave a trouble free track day and have a good fun day. I've always run 309 shafts but thats because i've always run then and proved to be touble free so see no reason to use a 205 length shaft.

[p1234 22 2 Cars]

Was like a different car through the corners, seriously wet day but sailed around all day like it was dry out,

 

Advise anybody on track with a 205 to fit these, completly transformed the cornering ability of the car.

 

Very wishy washy steering, took a bit of getting used to, really had to work the steering wheel but as soon as I got a sus of it it was flying.

 

Yet again a 205 puts a smile on my face.

[welshpug 1,655]

did you adjust the tracking after fitting them?

[p1234 22 2 Cars]

Eh nop, never even came into my head to do the tracking

[welshpug 1,655]

that'll be why the steering was rather "odd"

 

you'll be running 10mm of toe out, each side!

[p1234 22 2 Cars]

Ha Ha ooops, better see to that!

 

Still though serious cornering ability even on a water logged track.

[welshpug 1,655]

heh, I just got my brother to do a very rough guesstimate on a graphics drawing programme as to how far out the tracking would be, 27mm toe out, each side!

 

ROFLMAO

[johnnyboy666 195 1 Cars]

how did you go in a straight line!!?? I attempted to just move my car forward two feet after changing mine over and the wheels just fought against each other!

[p1234 22 2 Cars]

Car pulled straight as an arrow on the straight.

[kenp 3]

No probs with the driveshafts then?

[p1234 22 2 Cars]

No hassle with the drive shafts.

[allanallen 528 2 Cars]

Are you sure you've not just fitted another set of 205 wishbones? Without considerably lengthening the TREs it would of been un-drivable and very, very noticeable to look at!

[skinner2k3 3]

I also found the 309 arms made a very noticable difference.

 

How you drove it without adjusting the tracking is odd. I hade mine set parallel with 205 arms, fitted the 309 arms and could barely drive the thing 1/2 mile to the garage to get it tracked!

[shalmaneser 26]

I also found the 309 arms made a very noticable difference.

 

How you drove it without adjusting the tracking is odd. I hade mine set parallel with 205 arms, fitted the 309 arms and could barely drive the thing 1/2 mile to the garage to get it tracked!

 

+1 sketchy would be one way to describe it.