Leaking Fuel Line & Replacement Options

[John D 0]

Got the car out the garage yesterday morning. Left it idling for a minute whilst I shoved the motorbike and other stuff back in. Came back to the car and poked my head under to have a quick look at something only to see a steady drip of fuel coming from near the middle of the car! It was coming from where the lines are held by a plastic clip to the underside of the car.

 

At this point I parked the car and shut it off. Rang the mechanic I use and on his advice rang the AA with a view to getting it towed over to him (rather than risking a fireball simply driving it over).

 

However when the AA man came and we jacked the car it was no longer leaking. This was no more than 2hrs later and the car had only been moved on to the road in that time. How can that happen? Surely theres either a hole in the hose or there isn't?!

 

So in the end I just drove the car 2 miles to the garage myself. No apparent leak once I got there either.

 

Which brings me on to my next question. What is the best solution to this?

1. Replace lines in existing OE location.
   
2. Run lines through the inside of the car (its stripped and caged anyway). AA man suggested this (push fit plastic specifically) as being most cost effective and he had done it on a few rally cars he had prepared. Anyone know ball park cost for this?
   

[Vili 18]

I did mine with plastic lines and stainless connectors in OE location. Total cost was roughly 20€.

[pug_ham 245 3 Cars]

Original pipes are still available from Peugeot for about £25, they come in one length which needs cutting & shaping to follow the original route. You also need a union & olive from Pug to go with them.

 

http://forum.205gtidrivers.com/index.php?showtopic=130112&st=0

 

1579 26 FUEL FEED PIPE 6,5X8 - 3970 CL

 

1562 36 Ring

 

1563 23 Union nut

 

I did some recently for one of mine or you could use proper rubber fuel hose from the tank to the engine bay, I did this on mine before for a few years.

 

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[John D 0]

Cheers. So the parts are peanuts at least. I'll just let the garage handle it. I don't have the time or inclination to be mucking around with that!

[steve@cornwall 100]

Original pipes are still available from Peugeot for about £25, they come in one length which needs cutting & shaping to follow the original route. You also need a union & olive from Pug to go with them.

 

http://forum.205gtid...pic=130112&st=0

 

1579 26 FUEL FEED PIPE 6,5X8 - 3970 CL

 

1562 36 Ring

 

1563 23 Union nut

 

I did some recently for one of mine or you could use proper rubber fuel hose from the tank to the engine bay, I did this on mine before for a few years.

 

g

 

 

i think I'll order some ASAP...... Mot critical from April. And no doubt soon to be "NFP"

[ALEX 98 1 Cars]

You sure its not water in the footwell under the carpet dripping out?

 

I replaced my fuel lines with 8mm bundy tube for about £12, it's the exact same stuff Peugeot sell you as have to bend that to shape anyway.

You only just get enough to do the job from Peugeot, so mistakes can be expensive. For £20 you could go for stainless.and the olives are about 20p each from places like Thorite.

 

I wont lie it's a tw*t of a job to do, harder than brake lines if you've done them. This is why i know 8mm bundy is the same stuff as the genuine Peugeot part, as I wasted £26 cocking it up with a cheap pipe bender.

I Bought 3M of Bundy for half the price and had over a meter spare when i did it again with a better pipe bender.

[pug_ham 245 3 Cars]

You get about 12" extra pipe in the & they are both 72.5" long, I measured the original pipes & made mine to the same pattern / length.

 

 

g

[ALEX 98 1 Cars]

The first pipe bender i used put a crease in the pipe rarther than a bend at the kink shown in the middle, so I ended up having to throw it away.

I like the idea of using the tie wraps you've done there and it looks a better copy than mine did.

Once it was clipped in place and the ends got to the same place, you couldn't tell it was a different shape to the original.

[John D 0]

You sure its not water in the footwell under the carpet dripping out?

 

 

 

Was definately fuel; I stuck my fingers in it! The puddle it left evaporated in minutes too. No carpets in my car for water to hide under anyway

 

Garage reported back today. Turns out it was actually leaking from within the engine compartment where a jubilee clip holding the hose on wasn't doing its job. Could have been interesting to say the least!! The drip I saw must have been where it was running down the line to the lowest point.

 

Think I might buy a fire extinguisher over the weekend.

[pug_ham 245 3 Cars]

I bent mine by hand using the tie wraps, working on bend at a time & clamping it with the wraps as I worked along so it kept in shape / position.

 

I've yet to try them on the car but it's a pretty close match so I can't see there being a problem.

 

I had to try to add a kink in the middle to get a decent fit on the last set I did so this time I included it as I had an original pipe to copy.

 

g

[buster205 0]

1579 26 FUEL FEED PIPE 6,5X8 - 3970 CL

 

Will this be enough to make feed and return pipes or do you have to order two lots ?

 

Cheers

 

Ste

[marksorrento205 80]

Order one as it is enough to do both pipes

[cybernck 402 1 Cars]

How much does it cost?

[pug_ham 245 3 Cars]

1579 26 FUEL FEED PIPE 6,5X8 - 3970 CL

 

Will this be enough to make feed and return pipes or do you have to order two lots ?

Enough to do both feed & return pipes with approx 12" left over at the end.

 

How much does it cost?

Last set I bought was about £20 iirc.

 

g

[wildejon 7]

Time to resurrect this one as I now need to do the same. Mine are very corroded and need replacing.

 

I have the part numbers but I don't actually know what I'm doing with it all once I have it. Do both ends just sit inside a rubber hose?

What is the union for and what is the olive?!

 

Fuel Line 1579 26 Olive 1562 36 Union 1563 23

 

Thanks!

Jon

[welshpug 1,666]

union and olive are for the join from metal pipe to the solid plastic feed line to the fuel filter.

Edited January 16, 2014 by welshpug

[wildejon 7]

Thanks

[dcc 855]

You don't need those then if you're running a setup like mine, with a 106 gti fuel filter.

 

I will be ordering some of these soon I think as mine don't look in great condition.

 

I would like to order some high quality rubber for the fuel lines any useful links for some Mei?

[wildejon 7]

I just called Peugeot to order these parts.

 

The steel lines were 18 quid but the ring/olive (1562 36) was 32 quid alone!

Could anyone help me locate this elsewhere?

 

I also don't have a workbench, I guess I'm going to need one to be able to bend the pipes (sounds like a pipe bender is not ideal here for some reason..)

[Tom Fenton 1,547]

You can re use the nut, but you will need a new olive. There must be a mistake somewhere as the olives were cheap when I bought some recently.

 

I did the pipes for my car the other day, like others say above I started out with a pipe bender but this crimped/flattened the pipe so I abandoned this. I used a method similar to Graham above with cable ties, this worked a treat and can be done carefully by hand. I clamped a bit of 2" pipe in my vice and used this as a former to bend the pipe over which worked well.

 

Like so

 

[welshpug 1,666]

DAMN! servicebox says that too.

 

its just an 8mm olive though, which is the common microbore size, though I havent tried one.

[wildejon 7]

Honestly, I don't even know what one is. Maybe I'll just take it all apart and then go from there..

This will work out somehow!

 

I guess if I jack up the entire drivers side that will give me sufficient access? Sounds like I'm in for a weekend of joy

[GLPoomobile 958]

You don't need those then if you're running a setup like mine, with a 106 gti fuel filter.

 

I will be ordering some of these soon I think as mine don't look in great condition.

 

I would like to order some high quality rubber for the fuel lines any useful links for some Mei?

 

I was just going to ask if you actually need to retain the olive and nut.

 

I've got the 106 filter on mine. When I replaced the hoses previously with SS overbraid I did ponder what purpose that joint serves, as the nut is an absolute sod to get at with the engine and hoses in the way from what I can remember. I appreciate it's on the high pressure side, but the hose is still joined by a hose clip, albeit the bit it joins to is sort of barbed for better clamping.

 

If you just wanted to join the hose to the bare end of a metal pipe instead, can the pipe be flared somehow to give a better clamp when you fit the hose?

[Tom Fenton 1,547]

It is possible to remove the solid fuel pipes with just the car jacked up. Do not try to seperate the union/olive in situ, instead remove the solid pipe from the car with the rubber part still attached to it. Then you can split the union in the vice with easy access. The pipe can easily be manoeuvered to clear the subframe and gear linkages from under the car.

[welshpug 1,666]

the original feed pipe from steel to the filter is plastic with a rubber sleeve, fitted over a barbed fitting, no clips, hence a Banjo on one end and the olive fitting on the other end.