What Prices Are You Getting For Refurb Parts?

[layton1985 5]

Hi guys I have been looking on the net for engine components to fully restore a 1.9 gti 8v xu engine, some of the prices I were getting for standard replacement parts I thought I would get high performance parts for? So I rang a motorfactor that gave me slightly better prices.

 

I was wondering if anyone on here has done a full restore on an engine ie changed everything including valve guides, thrust washers, all bearings,liners, rings the lot and what kind of prices they got the parts for?

 

As it stands I have a total price of £650 for all the parts, I think this is expensive as an engine rebuild company charges £850 ish to rebuild an engine including labour and labour is the most expensive part so surely he must be getting the parts to do it either dirt cheap or he is just cleaning some parts and putting them back???

 

Thanks Lee

[205kenny 7]

It might be worth asking an engineer to source the parts.

 

Our local engineer seems to get parts stupidly cheap, though i dont know where from. It always works out cheaper than sourcing them yourself.

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

That's quite cheap, Pistons and Liners are a huge amount of the cost, Crank grind and bearings again are the far side of £200.00 and a complete head rebuild inc Guides and shimming will be a good £250.00

The £850.00 will be a recon engine using allot of the old parts inc liners etc

[layton1985 5]

Well I got a price of £40 +vat for liners and £16 for rings, I don't need pistons unless it's damaged which would be rare and obvious, and crank does'nt need a regrind unless it's knocking so really wont need bearings as such but be nice t put new in, he said bearing should never go unless starved of oil as they don't touch the crank theres a layer oil between and I want to do everything myself so no labour charges added.

 

I will pop down and see them and see if they can beat my local motorfactors, I' never gonna give it them to do so they may atleast profit on the parts I'll buy.

 

Had a couple of conversions now, mi16, 2.0 8v turbo and just doing a 180 conversion soon and thats the last one gonna go to totally standard looking 150 ish bhp gti engine with sa management few lightened bits etc keep it simple and hopefully be reasonable on fuel with lambda set up etc

[welshpug 1,657]

crank doesnt have to knock to need a grind, wear determines whether it needs a grind.

 

liners for £40??

 

rings at £16? probably per cylinder, ones for my gti6 pistons cost £58 for the set.

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

Sounds too cheap, I recently rebuilt a engine made from cheap parts, Rings etc so I really would use top quality parts only as it's a job you only want doing once, As WP said bearings will need replacing without a doubt, the crank will need a polish or grind at the very least so who ever said they don;t I'm afraid doesn't really know what they are talking about.

Gaskets/bolts again I only use Payen on 8v's

[layton1985 5]

per liner yeah, and £16 per piston for rings, obviously if there are marks or scores than it will but if not no, they should be fine as if there is enough oil in the engine through out its life they should out live the engine, source is 4 old men at the local engine rebuilders,

 

some people are converting as saying the 205 gti engines are too worn now, it's probably cheaper to refurb a 205 engine than do a conversion, plus value on the 205 would rocket, especially if they kept receipts and proof, it's half the gamble buying a 205 wondering how long it's going to be before your underneath it shelling out loads of money, I've had 7 now a couple I have sold on for a lot more than I bought for as I cleaned them up well and sorted knocks and bangs, people will pay a lot more for reasurance and a few were involved in accidents.

 

this 180 is the last conversion now for me and I won't be using the 2.0 8v turbo again not keen on that one plus mine lasted 4 weeks my fault though, I just want to get a good feel for rebuilding the original 1.6 and 1.9's for totally standard cars.

 

Here's a question will a rebuilt 1.6 gti engine be nearly as quick as a 100,000 miler mi16?? as I had a 1.9 dyno'd once and it produced 66bhp also on top gear 3 70/80 supercars had dropped as much as 100+bhp (don't know exact figures).

 

If this is so then a rebuild with a cam and 3 angle valves would make a quick 205, engine is lighter than the mi16 as well, I am just trying to gather as much info as poss and everyone's experience.