405 Mi16 With 4X4 Running Gear For 205 Gti?

[Madeleine 0]

Hello!!

 

I have an opportunity to purchase a 405 Mi16 with 4x4 running gear for what I think might be quite inexpensive (1.600 euros). I do intend on swapping my current 1.6 engine for an Mi16 or GTI-6, but I likely will only be doing some of the work and letting the rest be done by a professional.

 

Is it worth purchasing this vehicle and then having the work done professionally? The engine currently has approximately 150.000km on it.

 

Some thoughts would be appreciated.

 

I apologise in advance if this is in the incorrect subforum... I'm not terribly sure where it should go.

Edited January 15, 2012 by Madeleine

[Henry Yorke 269 3 Cars]

if it is a 4x4 then it will be an XU9 so it is fairly old now. The chances are it will need a rebuild so include this in your budget too. 1600 euros sounds quite a lot for just an engine. There are not many other bits on the 4x4 which hold a lot of value either.

 

Why not try and find a smashed up 306 S16 and put that engine in? More power, lower mileage (though will probably still need a rebuild), better management, probably cheaper

[Goliath 94]

If you did buy it and only use the engine then I would be interested in the 4x4 running gear and could collect from you (Spain is not a problem, it's a nice drive)!

[petert 588]

It would be a shame to separate the block from the running gear. The Mi16x4 block has less mounting lugs for the bottom engine mount. You're better off looking for a 2WD block if you only want the engine and leave it for someone with an interest in restoring it. It's still one of the most sublime handling cars ever made.

[Baz 421]

The x4 block is fine, one lower mount hole/lug is missing/shaved down to make room for the transfer box. I've used 5 or so without issue though.

 

Not worth breaking for the running gear to put in a 205, it's much more involved than you probably think. Requires the prop shortening and driveshafts too or a wide arch kit to house the extra track width, the centre bearing mounting somewhere, not to mention some way of hanging the rear diff & re-routing the exhaust, amongst a few other things, not impossible as it has been done a few times, but not easy.

 

 

Agreed though, If you can find a 405 Mi16x4, keep it as is, they are VERY rare now and are special cars, I'd love another one tbh!

[wicked 103 3 Cars]

And you don't need 4WD in a 205 if you fit a unmodded Mi16... LSD is sufficient.

4WD drivetrains eat power...

 

As said above, the if 405 Mi16x4 is in good nick, don't take it apart.

[boldy205 75]

Real waste bodging it into a 205, keep it std 405 4x4, might even be worth something in a few years?!

[Alastairh 47]

4WD drivetrains eat power...

 

And weight. Keep it in the 405!

[Madeleine 0]

Okay! Thank you for the advice every one. I all ready have a few other vehicles any ways, so I suppose another would be far too many. And, I'd rather have the GTi-6!!

 

For any that are interested, it is in Madrid. 405 Mi16

Edited January 19, 2012 by Madeleine