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kentish_lad

Put Her On A Diet

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kentish_lad

hi all , i have put my 205 on a diet recently and left nothing but the dash board , pair of buckets and a cage . a friend of mines father has just brought him one of thoese fiat 500 abraths and there is quite alot of banter going between us atm about who has the fater car , i need to know how much a 205 weighs so i work out roughly how much power i need from my engine to beat his 165 bhp per ton , so if anybody knows how much roughly a stripped out 205 weighs that would be grand .. thanks all aaron x

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Anthony

Chances are you've lost little if any weight over standard - the rear seats, plastic trim, carpets etc don't weight a great deal, and the weight of the cage will likely offset most if not all of that.

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Tesstuff

A magazine recently put the 500 Abarth up against the 205 1.9 Gti and in every way the 500 was a lot faster.

 

It was at Bedford circuit and if I remember rightly the 500 was 1 min 33 and the 205 1 min 37, it wasn't close at all.

 

For you to be competitive you would need an Mi/Gti6 engine in yours.

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harryskid

Also theres a lot of weight in door glass and window glass , steel doors and bonnet. Yours has had not much of a weight loss ! :)

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GLPoomobile

hi all , i have put my 205 on a diet recently and left nothing but the dash board , pair of buckets and a cage . a friend of mines father has just brought him one of thoese fiat 500 abraths and there is quite alot of banter going between us atm about who has the fater car , i need to know how much a 205 weighs so i work out roughly how much power i need from my engine to beat his 165 bhp per ton , so if anybody knows how much roughly a stripped out 205 weighs that would be grand .. thanks all aaron x

 

You need to be under 700kg to beat that with a 115bhp 1.6. IIRC correctly, you don't have a GTI, do you? So you better shed some serious weight!

 

You could do what some French guys did on Youtube with a base model 205. Basically rip it apart and strip everything off it that's not required to keep it mobile. It wasn't pretty, it wasn't safe , but it made it a lot quicker :lol:

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dcc

Buy some better suspension.

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P_Monty

Buy some better suspension.

'm not an expert, but I'd agree with that. Various reviews have put the arbarth 0-60 at 7.8 sec and a top whack of around 130 which I think is what was claimed for the 1.9 205 when it was new - so I'm guessing the better track time is due to better handling. (granted weight reduction should help with that I suppose)...

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dcc

To be honest, a rally spec 1.6 gti made me look silly in my old 205 at llandow. All I had was 160bhp, he had 110. he said the most fun he ever had going through the corners as a passenger. It turned out he was teaching a rookie woman how to drive!

 

100% suspension if you want to go fast around a track.

 

He had a plate diff, thicker ARB and torsion bars, bilstein coilovers and tyres to suit.

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harryskid

To be honest, a rally spec 1.6 gti made me look silly in my old 205 at llandow. All I had was 160bhp, he had 110. he said the most fun he ever had going through the corners as a passenger. It turned out he was teaching a rookie woman how to drive!

 

100% suspension if you want to go fast around a track.

 

He had a plate diff, thicker ARB and torsion bars, bilstein coilovers and tyres to suit.

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Drove better too !

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