Front End Repair To The Silver Hound

[soundguy 13]

Well guys, following on from this topic (http://forum.205gtid...howtopic=134733) I'm expecting an insurance valuation soon. I'll update the other thread as and when there's info to update.But for now, what I need to find out is, what tools I'm likely to need in order to replace the front panel, lights etc - damage pictured below, sorry for the poor quality pics, will get some hi res ones up once I get my hands on the camera.

 

[soundguy 13]

 

 

 

 

[soundguy 13]

[soundguy 13]

So just to recap, is it possible to remove and refit a complete front panel without welding? If so, what tools will I need?

 

Got a basic 38pc 3/8" socket set and a few other general tools, plusgas, copperslip, degreaser - any suggestions of anything a bit more specialist that I'll need?

[soundguy 13]

[welshpug 1,656]

that doesnt look to bad at all however you do need to strip off all the bent bits plus the washer bottle battery and alarm siren to asses the inner wings, the front panel is spot welded on so you will need a welder (or spot welder) to sort that.

[allye 530 3 Cars]

So just to recap, is it possible to remove and refit a complete front panel without welding? If so, what tools will I need?

 

 

Afraid not. Your best bet if you get the valance, bumper, lights, grill rad, fan etc etc off and have a better look.

 

(damn you welshpug! )

Edited December 9, 2011 by allye

[speno 239 2 Cars]

big hammer

The front panel is pretty flexible , well mine was , so i bent it back into shape ..

Oh if you need some bits, im having a clear out soon , soo give me a shout what you need and santa might bring me some booze in return

[Cameron 16]

As said take the bumpers off and see how much damage there is to the metalwork, from the pics it looks like you may actually get away with a new bumper and mounting brackets, all of which can be replaced with normal tools. If you have creases on the inner wings though things start to get a bit more complex.

 

Take everything off the front and see what the damage is first.

[allye 530 3 Cars]

If the extent of the damage to the shell, is that slight ripple where the wing bolts to the car then you could just get the hammer out

 

All you need is a socket set, some spanner and possibly hammer and hacksaw if that bumpers never been off. From the photos it looks as though the valance is ok? You may get away with a bumper, slam panel, o/s head light and grill. I would have been tempted to not go through the insurance on that one.

[Tom Fenton 1,541]

From the kink in the wing it has pushed the headlamp panels back. I think it will want a tug on both headlamp panels to pull them straight at the very least. Does the bonnet still line up properly with the wings?

[Henry Yorke 269 3 Cars]

I think that looks very cosmetic to me. It seems pretty square on which has dissipated the energy across the front. the front valance, fog lights and grill seem recoverable. It has an original bumper on it so that has protected you (compared to some of the flimsy aftermarket ones). Hopefully your bumper mounts have deformed and not taken the shock further back into the front panel. I think a lot of that can be realigned with a tape measure, a block of wood, a rubber mallet and a bottle jack.

 

The bonnet should not be too bad to get a second hand one as a lot of non GTIs were in silver and platinum silver has run throughout the range (even onto 306's)

Looks like a silver one here

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Breaking-205-1-1-1-8-Dturbo-and-1-6-gti-spares-/140637954346?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item20beace12a

or here

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Peugeot-205-diesel-breaking-all-parts-cheap-/180746086395?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2a154e67fb

 

Or there is a brand new genuine one here

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-PEUGEOT-205-BONNET-790193-/190586770713?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2c5fdb5519

[soundguy 13]

Thanks for the inputs guys, got most of the front end stripped off, just need to get the headlights/indicators off next, will do this and then upload some decent quality pics of what I find.

 

Incidentally, the radiator's had it, the driving lamps however are in no worse condition that they were. The slam panel's gone, the fan shround looks OK, the fan grille (RH as you face it) is OK, then fan itself seems OK - turns, has no broken or even bent blades. The front panel - rusted in places, bent, maybe salvagable but will probably go for a complete new one. PS oil filter dented by radiator. Bumper brackets - OS is fine just rusty. NS gone. Valance repairable.

 

Like I say, will update with better pics and address some of the points raised by the Hammer Specialists once I can see the front panel properly.

[Cameron 16]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otCpCn0l4Wo&ob=av2e

[P_Monty 2]

Thanks for the inputs guys, got most of the front end stripped off, just need to get the headlights/indicators off next, will do this and then upload some decent quality pics of what I find.

 

Incidentally, the radiator's had it, the driving lamps however are in no worse condition that they were. The slam panel's gone, the fan shround looks OK, the fan grille (RH as you face it) is OK, then fan itself seems OK - turns, has no broken or even bent blades. The front panel - rusted in places, bent, maybe salvagable but will probably go for a complete new one. PS oil filter dented by radiator. Bumper brackets - OS is fine just rusty. NS gone. Valance repairable.

 

Like I say, will update with better pics and address some of the points raised by the Hammer Specialists once I can see the front panel properly.

Glad it looks repairable...

With my cheeky head on, are you replacing the bonnet? If so, do you fancy selling me the sprung bit that goes into the release mechanism on the slam panel (hope that makes sense - not sure what its real name is..) ?

[soundguy 13]

...Does the bonnet still line up properly with the wings?

 

Yep, it drops back in to place, although it is getting replaced. If I can find a complete front panel I'll go for that rather than the individual sections as they seems to be sold.

 

Looks like the radiator cross member can be tricky to get, although there is one on ebay. Might be able to get something fabricated if I get stuck, presumably.

[soundguy 13]

Glad it looks repairable...

With my cheeky head on, are you replacing the bonnet? If so, do you fancy selling me the sprung bit that goes into the release mechanism on the slam panel (hope that makes sense - not sure what its real name is..) ?

 

 

Depends on how the replacement bonnet comes I suppose, but once it's sorted out I'll let you know if I have the part to sell.

 

 

[P_Monty 2]

Depends on how the replacement bonnet comes I suppose, but once it's sorted out I'll let you know if I have the part to sell.

O.K. cheers - I may have another source, but it doesn't hurt to keep looking ...