Wiper Motor And Jet Wiring

[bobdylan_55 1]

anybody got any idea how theyre wired up?

the haynes diagram is confusing as anything and goes through at least 3 relays?

 

cheers

[brumster 135 1 Cars]

If my notes are correct, then at the motor end you've got :-

1 - Red - feed to motor for fast winding

2 - Black - from motor to earth

3 - Blue - constant live (allows it to park)

4 - White - feed to motor slow winding

5 - Grey - park

 

The washer pump is wired off pin 7 on the stalk, and this wire also feeds a pin on the wipe relay (to wipe while washing, of course).

[bobdylan_55 1]

so if i was wiring up for just one speed (cba with 2 speed) I would just connect black to earth, blue to 12v, white to switched 12v? via a relay, fuse, and stalk?, and then grey to???

 

cheers

[brumster 135 1 Cars]

I believe so, yes, although I would just check the grey (pin 5) as by the look of my notes this earths when the motor is in park (ie. when parked, pins 2 and 5 short, when in wipe pins 3 and 5 short) so it looks like it's intended to drive the relay to keep the motor going. I believe it goes to the middle pin of the wipe relay, looking at a diagram by someone else that I found off this forum and printed off - but since they're not my notes, I never verified.

[bobdylan_55 1]

Ok, so more simply lol,

12v to the slow motor speed, and ground to the stalk, should this give me a simple slow speed with no auto park? i could probably live with that seeing its not going to be used on the road very often and is purely for MOT purposes.

 

Thanks for your replies btw

[brumster 135 1 Cars]

Oh blimey yeah, if you don't want any parking or intermittent, just wire up the feed and earth to whatever switch you want :-D !!

[bobdylan_55 1]

cheers lad, much appreciated. Just got to recover from my illness now so i can get out and do it

[bobdylan_55 1]

cant get the bugger to work.

 

Had the battery straight onto the motor just to get it to turn and it wouldnt still.

 

i had black to neg and white to positive. Nothing?

 

ive tried every combination of wires and nothing.

so do i need the blue connected at all times and then the white and black aswell? or should it work with just black and white?

 

thanks

[alexcrosse 124]

Did anything ever come of this? Just drawing the wiper circuit into a diagram for my car at the moment and the haynes isnt really helping me, I'd like to no who thought it was a good idea to draw switches and relays as boxes with no clues as to internal workings!...

 

Any help would be great.

 

Cheers,

 

Al

[welshpug 1,666]

M5 - earth

62 Live from relay.

61 Live via ignition.

200 - fusebox - 29a, stalk

31a - fusebox - 31 to stalk

 

33a ign live to stalk from fusebox

 

102, feeds washer pump, triggers relay as well.

 

200 and 31a from what I can figure out would be the two different speed triggers.

[alexcrosse 124]

Cheers pal. Any idea on 62? What relay and when should it be live? :S Is there an intermittent on 205's? Or just slow and 'fast'?

 

Also, is it a feed from the stalk or does it earth? Guessing a feed since all the original relays are external?

Edited February 13, 2012 by alexcrosse

[welshpug 1,666]

I was looking at the 405 manual, as most psa wiper motors are the same.

 

http://www.buzzboxx.co.uk/Haynes_405.pdf

 

page 277, looks like they are lives, though I'm not too certian how it works entirely