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2ltrrabbit

Brake Problem

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2ltrrabbit

Hi all,

Recently been having trouble with the brakes on my 205 rally car.

In short its a 1.9 1991 gti without the large brake compensator.

All brake lines were removed and new ones fitted in diferent locations.

i have the two front outlets on master cylinder going to the front wheels and the two rear outlets going into one to then the rear brakes via a handbrake.

mintex m1144 all round with standard calipers and discs.

The problem;

i done an event which went well the second event on test it felt like there was no bite on the front and to much on the rears resulting in a difficult day.

so i changed the master cylinder but still it feels Crap???

could it be i have the wrong cylinder?

when i stripped the car i cant rmember seeing any compensators but i may have missed them!

any one have a diagram on what the brakes should be on a 205 this year?

cheers

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Anthony

If it was a non-ABS 1.9 GTi, there should have been a pair of inline compensators just in front of the fuel tank - one per brake line.

 

If it originally started life as a 1.6 GTi, there would be a compensator on the nearside chassis leg and a single front-rear brake line.

 

Standard 1.9 GTi brakes are Girling front calipers with 247mm vented disks, and Bendix rear calipers with unvented disks.

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brumster

I rallied a servo'd setup once but it had a proportioning valve in the single rear circuit prior to the handbrake.

 

Tarmac or gravel?

 

1144s liable to wear pretty heavily on the front on tarmac, I suspect (depends greatly on how you drive it, of course). Could it just be that the fronts are knackered? Have you checked the pads?

 

I would remove any compensators (if you've got any; sounds like you're saying they're not there) and run an adjustable pressure regulator/limiter thing in the rear circuit to "tweak" the balance to how you like it.

 

You can also safely blank one of the rear outputs in the master cylinder; no need to join them into a single line - just run the rear line out of one of them.

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2ltrrabbit

ok guys,

Ive built the car with forest in mind but been doing a few tarmac events recently. so a servo set up is quite good for me as i can unplug it for forest events.

theres no compensators in the rear line, so like brumster mentioned ill get a bias valve. any good ones recomended?

ill go and buy a fresh set off pads ths weekend and see what happens on the road.

were any of the 205 gti brake circuits run as a diagonal system???

cheers

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brumster

Mine was this Tilton one :-

 

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Did the job :)

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pug_ham
were any of the 205 gti brake circuits run as a diagonal system???

cheers

Standard 1.9 GTI non abs set up is diagonally split front left / rear right from one pair of ports & front right / rear left from the other.

 

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