Gti-6 Into 205 With No Power Steering Aux Belt Help?

[richardjw 1]

Hi guys,

Does anyone run their GTi-6 engine with no power steering pump in their 205?

 

What aux belt is best to use? I dont want to run a dummy pump, just the alternator of the bottom pulley.

Cheers for you anticiatied assistance!

 

Richardjw

 

ps I will get round to putting the project photos on the site soon!

[24seven 104]

Have a look in here for a thread I started a couple of months ago on the same topic. There are photos of what you can do about it there. Basically with the right belt (6 rib, think it was 700mm, can't remember) and a timing belt tensioner you can run just the alternator on its own without the A/C or PAS pumps.

[Flozman 4]

i copied somebody elses super idea,

Buy a 6 rib 700 belt, put it over the alternator and crank pulley (was quite a tight fit already) removed the top alternator bolt and losen the bottom a little. Then get a bar between the block and alternator and pull it forward tensioning the belt and slide the top bolt back into behind the alternator and tighten up enough so you wont lose it. i found the tension is spot on quarter turn.

[chipstick 382 1 Cars]

6pk700 is the belt mostly recommended.

 

I have heard people also mention a 5 rib belt, but 6 sounds more popular on here

[richardjw 1]

Thanks for the help,

6R700 belt ordered, i'll post pic when its on and completed.

 

Cheers all!

[chipstick 382 1 Cars]

I am going down the route 24seven mentioned.

 

Spiky posted a pic a while ago and it showed how the timing tensioner fits.

[24seven 104]

http://forum.205gtidrivers.com/index.php?showtopic=130030&st=0&p=1169517]The thread I started.[/url]

 

Photo posted by Stu:

 

The thread for the tensioner bolt is already there in the bracket, though you might want to run a tap through it first just to clean it up.

[stuart1298 6]

Had same problem with my turbo conversion, easy way, get the old belt, wrap it round as usual, cut it then make it so it's tight, and cut the excess off, messaure what you have left in mm, then the amount of groves, so 6 groves would be 6pk and 5 would be 5pk, the length of the belt say 700mm you would need belt 6pk700 as an example

[richardjw 1]

Update - I used a PK6R700 belt, with old tensioner. Ground some of the mounting metal away to get 100% alignment, fits perfectly and clears the inner wing well.

 

Cheers for the help guys, I'll post pictures if anyone's interested?

[mackie 0]

I'm just about to do this in the next week so the more pics the better thanks!

[chipstick 382 1 Cars]

 

I have a spare tensioner if you need one?

[baz205gti 0 1 Cars]

I'm looking for an old tensioner if you got one going spare

 

 

I have a spare tensioner if you need one?

[baz205gti 0 1 Cars]

so 700mm belt 6 rib, i just used the standard 205 one but its only 4 rib, where do you find the 6 rib, 700mm??

[Paul_13 212 1 Cars]

Ask at your local motorfactors for a 6pk700 belt

[baz205gti 0 1 Cars]

sweet will do lol

[baz205gti 0 1 Cars]

dont suppose anyone knows what car this came from as my europarts is rubbish and make me feel like its such a biggy having to do their job and look it up without car details

[Paul_13 212 1 Cars]

Off a 306 s16 with no ac/ps iirc.

Tell them to stop being lazy c*nts and do their job.

Edited September 2, 2011 by Paul_13

[stuart1298 6]

Pmsl I work for ECP and i'm with you 100% mate, most of em don't even no what a 205 is. Lol. Tell them to type "=6pk700" in to k8 and it will bring the part number up. If you still get trouble tell them to call stu on cisco 7102284 that's my internal number. Good luck mate

[chipstick 382 1 Cars]

Halfords will order them in if you do have trouble relaying the details to your local motor factor.

[stuart1298 6]

ECP part number is 202545015 that for a 6pk698 so 2mm out, that's what I used and wa fine

[richardjw 1]

6PK700 belt is listed as a Peugeot Boxer van part, just ordered it from the local motor factors.

[NeilGTi85 5]

ECP part number is 202545015 that for a 6pk698 so 2mm out, that's what I used and wa fine

 

I also used the above belt, works and fits fine

[Masekwm 2]

Finally did mine today, but I find the cambelt pulley is rubbing against the water pipe on the inner wing. Anyone else found this?

[chipstick 382 1 Cars]

Mine was fairly close, but certainly no where near touching.

 

Have you got the pipe fitted the right way round?

[Masekwm 2]

Yeah I think so, hangers on the outside of the inner arch with the pipe just in the gap.

 

The gap between the alternator and wing is so small I had to twist the belt to get it through.

Edited December 3, 2011 by Masekwm