Engine Lifting, Removal And Equipment Recommendations

[johnhenry 20]

Morning all

 

Its finally underway, starting to strip out the 205 for its going over. ive come into some areas i know very little about so here we go!

 

1) how is it best/safest to lift the engine with a hoist?

Ive seen 'lifting eyes' mentioned but some more info would be great, also any rookie mistake avoidance pointers would be awesome!

 

2) engine weight (gearbox etc etc) for the main removal?

im in the market for an engine hoist, but am not sure what strength i need, obv. on the safe side!

 

3) engine weight on its own (for the engine stand)?

 

4) equipment recommendation

Im going to be in the market for an a) engine hoist, and a engine stand (the thing that acts like an engine rotisserie) who are you guys using? whats best any great offers at the moment?i have seen clarke stuff at machine mart, but am sceptical after my 'life long corrosion' sockets have had to go back after under a year!

 

Many thanks

John

 

PS: are there any 'heavy duty' degreasers, muck cleaners etc etc you would recommend for cleaning off the engine and prepping it for paint?

[harryskid 193]

Plenty of stuff on here if you look!

[chipstick 382 1 Cars]

I use a cargo sling to remove engines. I have a 6mtr 1 tonne one. It is more than long enough to wrap around a couple of times, but you really need to make sure it is taught and not wrapped around something that moves out of the way, otherwise the sling will find its way into the void and the engine will drop/lean. I now use a chain to the gearbox at a longer length to allow the box to tilt down so it can be lifted up.

 

I have never actually put an engine back in. So I am very scared about putting one in my 205. Especially when its all freshly painted.

 

If you get a 1 tonne crane you can easily lift the front of the car off/on the engine and lower it down into place.

 

Load levellers are about £35

[Tom Fenton 1,542]

I have a couple of 750kg wire ropes and shackles that I use as I have them, but old seatbelts with knots tied in them work very well as a make do lifting sling. The main tip I can give here is to arrange the slings to get the hook of the engine crane as close as possible to the engine, otherwise you an run out of lift on the crane before the engine and box is high enough to clear.

 

I personally prefer to remove the gearbox and then lift just the engine out, much more space to manoever the engine out of the bay without damage.

 

To refit you can either drop in from above with or without gearbox attached, or if the subframe is removed, you can push it underneath and then lift it up into position.

Edited June 29, 2011 by Tom Fenton

[damien 22 1 Cars]

1 ton engine crane

load leveller

some old seatbelts

350kg engine stand

 

as above, get the crane as close to the engine as poss, so you dont run out of lift.

 

there some details on engine removal here - http://forum.205gtidrivers.com/index.php?showtopic=130377&view=findpost&p=1172789&hl=gti6&fromsearch=1

[Ryan 99]

The engine fully built up is only about 100kg I think, plus another 40kg or so for the gear, so any crane and stand will be more than enough.

[smithy 1]

i bought a 1ton crane and a 750kg stand when i did mine recently.

 

i split box off and removed engine on its own but when putting back i fitted engine and gearbox as complete lump.

 

as for the lifting i used an old cable type bike lock the type with a loop at each end and fitted to the lifting eyes with 2 exhaust U clamps,i doubled the cable up so it was really close to engine so enough lift.

[pug_ham 244 3 Cars]

I find it easier to drop the whole engine & box assembly out underneath, of all the times I've done engine swaps only once have I used a crane & it made it a longer job becaue I didn't have any tilt to swing them out in one lump without splitting them.

 

Drop the front subframe & it can be done in an afternoon, last time I fitted mine it took under 1 1/2 hours to get everything bolted back in the engine bay, ready for the subframe to go back on & iirc not much more to remove it.

 

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