Difference Between 2 And 3 Pin Speedo Drive

[dave205 19]

I have sourced a 106xsi speedo drive for my turbo conversion, but its 3 pin and the 406 one was 2 pin, how do i go about connecting it up, so it'll work?

[ade 4wd 11]

The 406 uses a 2 pin VSS which connects to an interface box which is behind the glovebox. Its much easier to use a 3 pin VSS, connections are, pin 1 connect to a switched 12V supply, pin 2 connect to earth and pin 3 is the speed output and connects to the ECU.

[dave205 19]

The 406 uses a 2 pin VSS which connects to an interface box which is behind the glovebox. Its much easier to use a 3 pin VSS, connections are, pin 1 connect to a switched 12V supply, pin 2 connect to earth and pin 3 is the speed output and connects to the ECU.

 

What are the two cables on the original VSS connected two? i'll only have to add one cable into the loom as i have a 3 pin vss fitted.

 

also which way to you read the pin numbers?

[welshpug 1,661]

look at the plug, its numbered usually

 

2 wires are connected to the thingy he mentioned in the post you quoted....

[dave205 19]

yeah i know there connnected to that box, but are they earth's, lives's signal cables?? they could be any of them.

[ade 4wd 11]

Both wires on the original 406 VSS connect to the control box, neither are power or earth.

[dave205 19]

Both wires on the original 406 VSS connect to the control box, neither are power or earth.

Oh right i didnt know, so why do people say about connecting them to the ecu?

[rallysteve 22]

Think you will find the two pin one is an inductive sensor and the 3pin a digital signal. They are not interchangable unless you use the interface box mentioned or make your own

 

 

 

steve

[dave205 19]

Think you will find the two pin one is an inductive sensor and the 3pin a digital signal. They are not interchangable unless you use the interface box mentioned or make your own

 

steve

So is ther actually anway off getting the vss to work or, do people who have done turbo conversions just accept they cant run one?

[welshpug 1,661]

no, they use the 3 pin one and add the power wire required.

[dave205 19]

no, they use the 3 pin one and add the power wire required.

 

Rallysteve's post ses there different sensor types though?

[Daviewonder 533 3 Cars]

All you need to do is get the piece of loom for the 3 pin sensor and connect it up like this-

 

pin 1 goes to switched live, pin 2 goes to earth, pin 3 goes to pin 9 on ecu.

 

Edited June 23, 2011 by Daviewonder

[SPGTi 2]

I have used the 3 pin vss to run a Terrotrip tripmeter, which required a digital signal (just like you need). Just wire it up as per the diagram. Works perfect

 

Steve

[dave205 19]

All you need to do is get the piece of loom for the 3 pin sensor and connect it up like this-

 

pin 1 goes to switched live, pin 2 goes to earth, pin 3 goes to pin 9 on ecu.

 

Cheers for the diagram and advice, just what i need, i'll try and get it done this week if i have time,

[dave205 19]

How do i identify the pins on the ecu? there not marked on the plug or the ecu itself.

 

Ive traced the cables out and they run to the interface board in the dash of the car as suggested earlier in this thread. So im going to pull them out and pull the new plug and cables in up to the ecu plug and splice them in to the write pins as nessasry, but cant do that with out knowing the pin numbers!! GRRRR!!

[welshpug 1,661]

they are marked actually, sometimes you may have to partially dismantle the plug to see them

[dave205 19]

they are marked actually, sometimes you may have to partially dismantle the plug to see them

 

How easy are they to strip apart? As ive never done it before

[Daviewonder 533 3 Cars]

You might not have to take it apart. Have a look very very very closely at the ecu and plug faces, you will see several numbers printed next to certain pins, you can work out the rest of the numbers from there.

[dave205 19]

You might not have to take it apart. Have a look very very very closely at the ecu and plug faces, you will see several numbers printed next to certain pins, you can work out the rest of the numbers from there.

I pressume there extremely small then?! :/

[Daviewonder 533 3 Cars]

I pressume there extremely small then?! :/

 

You could say that!

[dave205 19]

Ive looked on the ecu and plug again, but still cant see them! Wherebouts are they stamped?

[dave205 19]

I have ast last found the numbers on the ecu the problem is i,ve had a look in my haynes manual and pin 8 is shown to be connected to the knock sensor? I then tryed testing that is but have come to the conclusion it isnt as the meter still reads an open circuit? Im now totally confused and annoyed as this seems like it should be a simple job?!

[Daviewonder 533 3 Cars]

Pin 8 doesnt go to the knock sensor, pins 30, 11, 14 go to the knock sensor.

 

You're supposed to be looking for pin 9 to wire up the vss anyway.

[dave205 19]

yeah i know sorry i read it wrong. The haynes manual i have shows pin 9 goes to 2 places the vehicle speed sensor and speed sensor, if this makes sense? The VSS plug on the diagram is a 3 pin one but the one on there is 2 pin, and it doesnt go to the ecu at all. So how can i find were the cable thats connected to pin 9 is? it just doesnt make sense.

[Daviewonder 533 3 Cars]

 

Lets start again. Do you have the 3 pin connector and piece of loom to go with the 3 pin VSS?