Availability Of Parts

[dch1950 37 1 Cars]

Hi all,

most of the regulars on this forum know me by now, and you also ,therefore, know that my particular interest is GTi trim. Mechanical parts seem to be easily available and presumably the engineering and production details are readily available from Puegeot.

What has troubled me though is the relationship between Peugeots supply chain and Peugeot head office, and US

To be able to replicate pattern parts it is fairly obvious that you need the original engineering info (Cad details etc), and presumably if you got to the elevated position of being a PUG supplier of parts you must have this sort of info available (for you to fulfil your contract with Peugeot). Trouble is that when I contact Peugeot and ask for information about fabrics, suppliers and the like - I a told that this is an old model and they don't have that information anymore. Get real - of course they have it, but they won't give it out to the likes of me.

Why is that? I joined PSOOC in anticipation that their "close relationship" with Peugeot might prove helpful. Was it buggery,

so the question I ask myself is - there must be a route for firms that wish to replicate the original 205 kit as pattern parts - if so what is it.

Close relationships with Peugeot (i.e. they subsidise various idiot schemes thought up by " the committee" ) seem a little fruitless if the end result is bad for us the dedicated PUG nuts.

Rant over

regards

Dave

[welshpug 1,657]

It is quite possible they dont have much of the information any more, I know much of the manufacturing equipment for the XU Iron engines have recently been sold off, I doubt they'd want to hold on to any informaton they have no use for any longer.

 

Did they use CAD back in the early 80's?

[dch1950 37 1 Cars]

It is quite possible they dont have much of the information any more, I know much of the manufacturing equipment for the XU Iron engines have recently been sold off, I doubt they'd want to hold on to any informaton they have no use for any longer.

 

Did they use CAD back in the early 80's?

 

I was designing it , so I presume they were probably using it

But what's that got do with anything, retrospective application of technology is not unheard of (vinyl to mp3, ocr scanning of text etc, etc etc..). it wasn't the method I was knocking , but the availability of said information - keep up.

Edited May 30, 2011 by dch1950

[kingboyk 2]

Maybe worth going through the committee, they ought to have some genuine contacts at Pug given that the club was recently rebranded to (so far as I know) keep Peugeot happy and the relationship official?

[muddatrucker 125]

How do the independent companies who retrim any interior/upholstery do it without plans?

[Batfink 201]

They probably strip a seat or interior down and copy it. Eventually it will become viable for small companies to manufacture low volume items. At the moment while oe parts are available its not commercially viable

Edited October 4, 2011 by Batfink

[Baz 421]

You only have to look at what happens with current popular classics, such as Batfink points out above.

[SurGie 54]

How do the independent companies who retrim any interior/upholstery do it without plans?

 

 

Easy, they strip/separate the covers apart then copy/stencil them

[dch1950 37 1 Cars]

Hi,

viable for who - trimmers love one off seat recovers. They do take the old seat to bits (if there's enough of it left) and sew up a set from an on the cloth trace & copy. These are made from scratch every time and boy do you pay for it. It's not viable for them because they don't want to lose the rather nice profit margin from doing a custom trim-out. You will never go to a trimmer and find a set of GTi covers available off the shelf and ready to fit.

They certainly don't have stocks of "Quartet" material hidden away either.

I have produced patterns for all the soft cover sections of the GTi, digitally scanned my drawings to dxf files for Autocad, and then once I finalise them I will have the dxf files reworked. I have also got working hard master patterns for cutting out.

The front seat covers aren't that readily available at all, most of them up for sale, are pretty crap (1 in 4 being re-usable is about right)

We'll see how things progress won't we.

regards

Dave

[dch1950 37 1 Cars]

my sincere apologies - this thread has been hijacked

Dave