Rusty Brake Lines?

[d7ve_b 44 1 Cars]

Hi All,

 

One of my pugs failed its MOT yesterday for a number of reasons. One of the reasons it failed was "Nearside (and Offside) front brake pipe excessively corroded". I've had a look at the metal brake lines and the flexi-hoses on both sides and they look like this:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Do they look excessively corroded to you? If so which part, the pipes or the ends of the flexi hoses? What do you think are the chances of them getting through with just a good clean? The operation of the front brakes were fine BTW.

 

It also failed on the O/S rear drum binding, what's a good solution for un-binding them? Can they be a adjusted?

 

Cheers,

Dave.

[monkee87 2]

The metal pipes don't look that bad to me.. By no way excessive by the looks of things. Maybe the garage trying to get some work off you? I'd just replace them TBH if the MOTer has failed you on them. Use copper ones which don't corrode like the original steel ones. Flexi hoses look newish, if they're not split, they'll be fine, just give em a clean!

[allye 530 3 Cars]

Flexi hoses look find and not perished, but the steel pipes are a little corroded. Its not what you can see is the danger though, brake lines can rust from the inside out as well due to contamination of fluid so changing them will def be needed. Its a cheap DIY job if you have a flaring tool, copper pipe and unions are dirt cheap.

[d7ve_b 44 1 Cars]

Thanks guys, is it possible to buy the lines already made up?

 

Any thoughts on the binding?

[allye 530 3 Cars]

Buy some copper piping, you can bend it very easily (with your hands) You can still get them ready made though.

 

With the binding, its best to get the drums apart, give them a good clean and inspection then adjust them. Also inspect the h/b cables aren't siezing.

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

If you value your life and car then all 205's not just yours should have all the lines replaced, Harsh maybe but a very valid point in my book.

The line that goes under the fuel tank is the worst as you cannot see it and one touch normally snaps the pipe off, Pipes you can buy as a kit I think from a company that makes them which I'm sure someone will know (cannot recall now)

[d7ve_b 44 1 Cars]

From searching I think automec (sp?) Sell the full kit but according to another recent thread peugeot still sell the pipes so I might get a price on them first.

 

Regarding brake pipe spanners what size do I need? Searching suggests 10/11mm spanners and 11/13mm spanners but there's no definitive answer?

[welshpug 1,655]

Automec will be much much cheaper than Peugeot, though to make them yourself the materials will be around a tenner to do the whole car so it may be worth investing in a flaring kit, I did and its saved me the cost of getting someone else to make them for me several times since.

 

Coupled with a set of hoses from GSF or a motaquip dealer, or some braided items from Miles would sort your 205's brakes for a long time, certainly well past a 2 yearly brake fluid change

 

One thing I would do (if its a disc rear beam) is pipe the rear trailing arm like the later 306's and Xsara's, where the last short hose was not used, if its a drum then disregard that comment

 

As for spanners iirc you'll just need an 11mm union spanner, only if the union on one side of a 1.9 compensator has been changed will it be 13mm (its an M12 thread but the o.e unions still had an 11mm head)

Edited March 27, 2011 by welshpug

[monkee87 2]

Out of interest, what's the benefit of not using the really small brake hoses on the rear calipers? Surely they're there for a reason?

[d7ve_b 44 1 Cars]

Thanks WP, FYI it's a drum rear beam . I take it this won't affect me needing an 11mm union spanner for the fronts...

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

Less connections and less chance of the hose rubbing on the inner bodywork which I've seen too often, Plus all 06's have a solid pipe,

The idea I would think is because the calliper moves the flexi was used, But I would hope after testing the solid pipe is fine as it hardly moves so doesn't stress the pipe which I know I always use as an example, my Dads 306 is fine with 280k miles on it.