Gti To Xu10j2te (406 Sri Turbo) Conversion Help

[dodg3r7 0]

Hi folks

 

I am currently buying all the extras I need to do the above conversion. I have the poly bushes, engine mounts, MI16 flywheel etc.

I am using the 1.6 GTI box and shafts until ive saved up for the HDI box and 19 shafts and a good paddle clutch. using the 1.6 box and shafts just to run the engine in.

 

My question is: what clutch can I use on a 1.6 box and MI16 flywheel?

Also, do I need to get a smaller brake servo? looks like the bigger one will get in the road of the turbo/air intake pipes

 

Thanks in advance

Jamie

[peter 20]

You use a mi16 clutch... No the brake servo will be just fine!

[Daviewonder 533 3 Cars]

My engine hit the servo so I had to fit a smaller one, I believe Pablos did too. You might need to fit a smaller one as I believe space varies quite a bit

[peter 20]

Interesting! Both my 2.0 8v turbos clear no problem! one had a lengthend bottem mount (which is a waste of time) the one i have built recently using the standard bottem mount clears quite easily even with the cambelt cover on, as does my mates..

[dodg3r7 0]

Thanks guys, I wasnt sure if the MI16 clutch would fit inside the 16 box.

Any recommendations for a make/model? As I said, its just to run my engine in and do until I have the HDi box and 19 shafts and a good paddle clutch but still dont want it melting on my first drive ;-)

 

I seen this clutch while doing a search on the forum recently:

 

http://www.aepdirect.com/?option=shop&...ategory_id=3444

 

Thanks again

Jamie

Edited June 27, 2010 by dodg3r7

[peter 20]

The standard mi16 clutch puts up with 200hp or in my case a 2.0 turbo running 1 bar so that would work fine!

[dodg3r7 0]

The standard mi16 clutch puts up with 200hp or in my case a 2.0 turbo running 1 bar so that would work fine!

 

Thanks peter

[James_m 0]

Why the HDI gearbox? Might be too long geared even for an 8v turbo, you might be better off with a 1.9 gearbox

[whizzer71 0]

Why the HDI gearbox? Might be too long geared even for an 8v turbo, you might be better off with a 1.9 gearbox

 

Just use the 1.9 box with a 3.59 fd perfectly ideal, the ratios in the hdi box are all over the place (fine for a diesel in a heavier car than a 205), you want to make good use of the torque from that engine youre gonna spend hours fittiing not waste it in a load of wheel spin and useless scrabbling !

[powermandan 0]

if you dont have the engine tilted is it still possible to get the exhaust to line up?

[dodg3r7 0]

Hi Guys

 

Little update - I finally got the engine out the 406 and dropped it into the 205 last night. I left the brake servo in but it was in fact in the way and the bottom mount wont line up. Im on the scavenge today for another brake servo - been told both the xs and diesel ones are smaller - any ideas which is best?

 

I just need a brake servo, some new gear linkages, MI16 thermostat? and it wired up and it should be done.

 

Dont have much pics yet - here is one from the phone though

 

[dodg3r7 0]

Does anyone know if you have to change the thermostat? Heard you needed an mi one but not sure?

[Rob Turbo 3]

I used the standard 8v turbo thermostat in both my 8v turbo conversions, with the 205 turbo I used a 1.9 gti 'box and it was quick off the mark but the ratios were too short, in the 306 turbo I used a 306 1.9 TD 'box and it was perfect for the engine, with my current 16v turbo project I'm sticking with the same TD 'box, but with a better diff!

[dodg3r7 0]

I used the standard 8v turbo thermostat in both my 8v turbo conversions, with the 205 turbo I used a 1.9 gti 'box and it was quick off the mark but the ratios were too short, in the 306 turbo I used a 306 1.9 TD 'box and it was perfect for the engine, with my current 16v turbo project I'm sticking with the same TD 'box, but with a better diff!

 

Thanks mate, i heard someone say you needed an mi thermostat as it had an extra outlet but ill just stick with the standard one if that does!

[mang 3]

You shouldnt have to change the sevo the standerd one should fit if its hitting on the big in take pipe just heat it up abit then put a scafold tube on it and give it a tap just to make a nice little dent in it so it curves around the servo save your money. one of the reasons for extending the lower mount is that you dont have such a sharp bend in the exhaust 90 degrees create pressure.