My Rear Arm Is Not Dropping!

[dch1950 37 1 Cars]

Hi all,

several MOT's ago, as usual I was just grateful it had passed and after the phone call I went over to pay and pick the car up.That done the mechanic who works there (a mate of mine) took me to one side and that he had been asked to look at the rear arm suspension as one side didn't seem to be dropping down as much as the other. From my experience of the diagnosis chat on this forum I knew exactly what the likely cause was. Nothing was or has been been mentioned about it though and my mate only said something because he knew me.

Now last year I thought I'd better up and do something about this "tight radius arm" and decided on a beam refurb.

I did nothing with the old beam until now as I wanted a distraction from the seat refurb work I'm doing.

I left everything soaking in diesel most of last week, then used Tom's puller to get the torsions out - easy peasy.

The n/s arm came free as well - no real probs, but the driver side was a different story.

Have a look at this - one for the chamber of horrors I think. - a bit tight! It looks a if it had been well and truly *ucked for a while as it's needing some persuasion to get it out!

The moral being "always check your seals"

 

 

 

 

regards

Dave

[bouver 0]

I have one sitting in my garage that looks just like that!

 

Fubared!

 

Have you tried heat, then pushing it out from the other end of the tube using a long bar and a large hammer?

[dch1950 37 1 Cars]

I have one sitting in my garage that looks just like that!

 

Fubared!

 

Have you tried heat, then pushing it out from the other end of the tube using a long bar and a large hammer?

 

Hi mate,

yes, thats on tomorrows agenda. But I was just so taken aback by the MOT guy. Fails me last year on a switch - but he's been testing my pug for 10+ years now and he failed to notice. That was what got me.

I have a bit of thing about scrapping whole or even parts of Pugs as I see them as a fixed but ever dwindling resource.

I will get that beam apart and if possible fit new OEM bearings in, but if not I'll be looking for a set of Phospour bronze ones

The tube "should be OK" but we'll see. Just bought a pair of new shafts from Jimi so I'll flog on with this.

I have the same approach to the seats and the foam I'm running a thread on - a dwindling resource so I try and keep as much in good condition and in circulation.

Sorry - you don't deserve my mini-rant, but it's how I feel.

Cheers Bouver

Dave

[shalmaneser 26]

wow that really is fecked!

[Tom Fenton 1,540]

From experience and looking at how that trailing arm shaft is sitting, I think you'll find that beam tube to be scrap.

[dch1950 37 1 Cars]

From experience and looking at how that trailing arm shaft is sitting, I think you'll find that beam tube to be scrap.

I think you're probably right, but I just want to have a look at the damage. Morbid curiosity I suppose.

Has anybody ever taken the end pieces off and replaced them, or even cut a good end off a busted beam and joined the tubes in the middle. I don't really know how available second hand tubes are.It's diminishing returns at the end of the day.

I'll post a photo (when I get the shaft out) as a warning.

cheers Tom,

regards

Dave

[SurGie 54]

Beams can be re-sleeved professionally with new smooth metal inside where the bearings have damaged the area and you can also buy new beams from Peugeot but they are around the £300-400 mark, but they do include new bearings.

[dch1950 37 1 Cars]

Beams can be re-sleeved professionally with new smooth metal inside where the bearings have damaged the area and you can also buy new beams from Peugeot but they are around the £300-400 mark, but they do include new bearings.

Hi SurGie,

I knew about the new tube option, but as with most things Peugeot have them on their list but don't make them anymore until (presumably) they can guarantee to sell them - i.e. we're all screaming for them. Back in the 2002 I needed a replacement exhaust manifold - did the usual searches and it was looking about £160 from Pug, I got one from e-bay Fr - brand new PUG part - £80 delivered. Do you know of any firms who do this re-sleeve and how much it's likely to cost.

There was a firm over the border in Leicestershire who used to advertise as doing it - Restoration ..... (I've forgotten the name).

regards

Dave

[pug_ham 244 3 Cars]

From experience and looking at how that trailing arm shaft is sitting, I think you'll find that beam tube to be scrap.

I agree, that beams scrap metal now, you can see where its worn the edge oval in your picture.

 

Graham.

[SurGie 54]

Hi SurGie,

I knew about the new tube option, but as with most things Peugeot have them on their list but don't make them anymore until (presumably) they can guarantee to sell them - i.e. we're all screaming for them. Back in the 2002 I needed a replacement exhaust manifold - did the usual searches and it was looking about £160 from Pug, I got one from e-bay Fr - brand new PUG part - £80 delivered. Do you know of any firms who do this re-sleeve and how much it's likely to cost.

There was a firm over the border in Leicestershire who used to advertise as doing it - Restoration ..... (I've forgotten the name).

regards

Dave

 

I hope its ok to post this info >

 

There is a place in Coventry, a proper beam building place called 'Coventry Transmissions' Tel, 024 76635054. They are a Jeep & Peugeot axle specialists .

 

I cant remember how much it cost, but of the top of my head it was around the £45 extra on top of the beam re-build, give them a call. However as Tom and Graham said, it does looked oval, i'v not had any experiance with this sort of damage before.

 

Hope this helps.

 

George.

Edited June 12, 2010 by SurGie

[dch1950 37 1 Cars]

I hope its ok to post this info >

 

There is a place in Coventry, a proper beam building place called 'Coventry Transmissions' Tel, 024 76635054. They are a Jeep & Peugeot axle specialists .

 

I cant remember how much it cost, but of the top of my head it was around the £45 extra on top of the beam re-build, give them a call. However as Tom and Graham said, it does looked oval, i'v not had any experiance with this sort of damage before.

 

Hope this helps.

 

George.

Cheers George - thanx for that

Dave

[dch1950 37 1 Cars]

Morning all,

A bit more heat after leaving it soaking in diesel from yesterday and we got it out. Took a few steady whacks from a 121b hammer - but out she came.

Not as badly ovalled out as I was expecting. I think this might be recoverable.

heres a couple of shots of the offending parts.

 

 

 

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George - this is my old beam - refurbed one and put it on last Aug. This is an exercise to see what I can recover and use again. I don't mind spending a bit if it means saving this part from the scrapper and putting it back in circulation - real re-cycling in action.

regards

Dave

[SurGie 54]

The above picture looks like its not as oval as the first picture.

 

Good on you, if its salvageable then great, good luck with it and let us know how you get on with it .

[welshpug 1,655]

regardless of being oval, the bearing seat looks to be very damaged there.

[Alastairh 47]

Arms and bars are only good. Rest is complete

scrap. I would look out for another good tube personally rather than messing about with that.

 

Al

[dch1950 37 1 Cars]

Hi all,

I have thrown the towel in this afternoon on this tube. I wire brushed it and it all virtually crumbled away - shame or what.

Still it would have been nice to sell on the original that came with the car .... don't go there Davey boy.

Stumbled across this again while trawling youtube - always makes me laugh/cheers me up.

Thanx for your input.

thanx again guys

Dave