Timing Pin For Renault Wanted+ Advice If Poss

[pugpete1108 62 1 Cars]

my neighbours water pump went on her laguna last week and she got tsome cowboy who she knows to change it, now the car wont start.

 

i have read that the timing need to be spot of for these run well or at all in fact. i know it need a pin in the block to stop the crank at tdc cy1 so you can set the cams and belt correctly and was hoping somone had one on here for loan ar possibly some way of fabbing one up?

 

i dont really want to touch it tbh but feel the need to help out and seeing as the bloke that did it in the first place has scarpered i may well have to do it.

[Russell_ds80 3]

hi i believe that the hole is around 8 mm on the front of the engine. so an 8mm drill bit would possibly do the job. but there is more than one place you can put the pin i.e more than one hole. the gearbox end of the cams have slits in them for a locking bar if the pin is in the right hole on the crank these should line up.

 

also is it a diesel? if so the diesel pump may need to be timed which might be why it wont start??? not everyone knows that so seen a few that wont start because of it???

[davev 1]

just expanding on what russell posted. im sure the crank actually butts up against the pin on some of the renault engines(so it has so screw into the block)

 

and the one im thinking about you physically have to punch a hole in the cam seals to get them out to time the cams up. so you will need 2 of these also.

 

heres a quice pic of the type of engine im refering to.

http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/...10003_large.jpg

Edited May 18, 2010 by davev

[pugpete1108 62 1 Cars]

Cheers guys, but I came home today and the bloke was back trying to get it started, I said did you move the crank with the belt off he said yes, I said did you put I back togthe like this he said yes, ok so did you turn it over on the key? He said yes......... Engines fubar I said.

 

We tried turning the crank and it stopped dead in both directions, so I Said the heads gotta come off.

 

Half hour later I pulled the end of a valve out of no4 piston where it had snapped and turned over and gone through the piston. Same on no1 and a snapped valve on no3.

 

What a f#cking tool bag, he's now gotta either get her a new engine or a new car just cos he didn't have a clue what he was doing.

[MerlinGTI 3]

[Russell_ds80 3]

what an idiot.!

 

davev. i beleive u are right for tht engine as it locks in 1 direction but the diesel laguna locks in both directions i think.?

Edited May 18, 2010 by Russell_ds80

[pugdamo 111 2 Cars]

what an idiot.!

 

davev. i beleive u are right for tht engine as it locks in 1 direction but the diesel laguna locks in both directions i think.?

 

If its a 1.6 it locks one way as you said,if its a 1.8 it locks both ways. The pin for the 1.8 isnt a scew in one but it has a shoulder on it that sits inside the threads in the block so i would have thought you would need the proper pin .If its a 1.6 you would definatly need the pin as it screws into the block.

 

The diesels lock both ways but you dont need the tdc pin really as i normally use the marks on the cambelt