Adjusting Clocks For Rebuilt Engine

[sport1901966 8]

I expect some people may not approve of what I am asking but I can assure my intentions are genuine.

 

I've rebuilt an mi16 engine and fitted it into a 205 (see my project thread) and I'd like to reset the odometer to reflect the engine mileage rather than the chassis. I understand that it is illegal to missrepresent the mileage when it comes to sale, and have no intention of doing so. It is quite likely I'll not be selling this car for the distant future.

 

Anyway does anyone know how to go about changing the mileage. I had a go at removing the barrel and setting it back to 0 but couldn't work out how to do it and re-assemble it so it would then count up as it should. I'm fairly sure I've read about it being done before so any help would be appreciated!

 

Thanks,

Geoff

[pug_ham 244 3 Cars]

Its not just the mileage of the engine but that of the whole car, running gear, shell etc & its not only illegal to do but also fraud.

 

Graham.

[All Praise The GTI 3]

plenty of clocks on ebay and for sale on here or from cars being broken. just find some with similar milage and swap them over if it makes you happy iam slightly CDO so i know where your coming from

[Pugnut 9 1 Cars]

Anyway does anyone know how to go about changing the mileage. I had a go at removing the barrel and setting it back to 0 but couldn't work out how to do it and re-assemble it so it would then count up as it should. I'm fairly sure I've read about it being done before so any help would be appreciated!

 

Thanks,

Geoff

 

ever watched Ferris Beullers day off ?

[SurGie 54]

A drill ?

 

You can buy them new and the mot mileage is reference only so not a legal thing, i was advised by VOSA myself BTW. What if you have bought a car with clocks not working and broke, surely putting in a new one and telling the dvla, insurance with pictures included would be all fine ??

 

I had actually had 1k mileage added on by mistake by the mot inspector and i only noticed it a long while after the mot was done, so the mot cert can not be changed if noticed after one week.

[pug_ham 244 3 Cars]

Its easy enough to reset the clocks but we don't post it in public because it is illegal.

 

Changing the odometer recorded mileage is also known as clocking which I'm sure is still an illegal activity.

 

I'm sure if you have to swap the clocks due to breaking or another problem you are supposed to get somekind of proof from the garage you buy the new clocks from supporting this & stating the original mileage from the dead clocks. (new as in not second hand / ebay)

 

Graham.

[Baz 421]

ever watched Ferris Beullers day off ?

 

Almost as funny as;

 

A drill ?

 

Someone's been watching Matilda?

[sport1901966 8]

A drill ?

 

Tried that on some old clocks - and broke them!

 

Its not just the mileage of the engine but that of the whole car, running gear, shell etc & its not only illegal to do but also fraud.

 

Graham.

 

It's only fraud if I were to try and sell it claiming that is the actual milage. It isn't illegal to adjust the mileage, however it is illegal to try and sell a car without disclosing the fact the mileage has been adjusted. If I was really trying to defraud people would I post all this on a public forum

 

I'm pretty sure the clocks in it weren't original anyway - I have no idea of the cars actual mileage.

 

Anyway, I'm still unsure whether this car is going end up on the road, may well end up being a purely track car.

Edited May 10, 2010 by sport1901966

[Henry Yorke 269 3 Cars]

You can do it by getting in contact with the DVLA. My dad bought a 635 CSI many years ago where the previous owner had done this before he toured around europe. I think M@tt has done it to his 205 mi16/GTI6 after a rebuild.

 

All I can say is that the odometer system is mechanical system and when I swapped some clocks over in mine to ones with oil pressure markings on, it was easy to reset them to the same mileage as the original clocks if you figure out the mechanical logic.

[cir287 0]

Illegal (which it technically is) or otherwise, I dont think its wise to be putting detail on how to clock a car up on a public forum, even if it is elsewhere.

I think this site has good integrity and should keep it.

[jackherer 543]

As has been said it is only illegal if you sell the car and claim the mileage to be true when you know it isn't.

 

There is no point in obscuring the method for adjusting the clocks on the forum, if someone wants to misrepresent their cars mileage all they need to do is buy a new set of clocks and swap them over. The previous MOTs and service history are the thing to check. Everyone should always assume the displayed mileage is false unless the paperwork backs it up.

 

Edit: I just noticed you are in Ireland, maybe it is illegal there, I don't know.

Edited May 11, 2010 by jackherer

[sport1901966 8]

As has been said it is only illegal if you sell the car and claim the mileage to be true when you know it isn't.

 

There is no point in obscuring the method for adjusting the clocks on the forum, if someone wants to misrepresent their cars mileage all they need to do is buy a new set of clocks and swap them over. The previous MOTs and service history are the thing to check. Everyone should always assume the displayed mileage is false unless the paperwork backs it up.

 

Edit: I just noticed you are in Ireland, maybe it is illegal there, I don't know.

 

Exactly, I understand that whilst it isn't illegal there is no reason to make it easy for people to do. However, it's easy to get done, there are enough companies to pay to do it if you really are trying to make money from it. In my case I don't want to pay someone to do it as I will be making no gain from doing it, other than the slightly unnecessary satisfaction of my odo showing my newly built engine mileage. If someone happened to know how, and would be kind enough to explain to me then I'll put the clocks back to zero as planned (which would be stupid if I was trying to make money on the car, clearly its not going to have done no miles).

 

If someone does know how and doesn't mind PMing it to me I'd be grateful. Otherwise I shall pursue no further

 

Geoff

[flipperthebushkangaroo 2]

Hi, I had a fault on the 307 which required the computer that records the milage be replaced, this left me with a zero milage reading on the car. I asked the garage what i needed to do they told me all that was required was to note the change and the previous milage in the cars service history.

 

Ever the pesimist i checked this with DVLA after the girl i spoke to expressed surprise that i was even asking off she went to speak to her supervisor (no one had questioned this before that they knew of!!) they confirmed that the garage was correct so there you go just put the details of the origional clock and the new (or doctored) one and your legal.

 

The main thing is to be up front and tell the MOT bloke and not misrepresent the true mileage of the car.

 

hope this helps

 

Roddie

[McDude 33]

The clocks on my 205 were replaced at 22k when the original died. You can work it out if you go through the history and see the receipts, but only if you really look for it, otherwise you'd assume it had 22k fewer miles. All the MOT certs show the lower mileage because it had failed before 3 years old.

 

In the UK mileage correction is not illegal. I think the original poster wanted to do it for the sake of looks not to defraud, however as others have stated, it isn't just the engine that has been stressed with miles.

 

No major mechanical part on my 205 is over 3 years old/14,000 miles but I wouldn't think of putting the clocks back, if anything they should be put forwards to reflect the 22k failure, but that would get really messy with paper trails.