Brake Ducting Options/pics

[jimmer 0]

After experiencing brake fade on my last event i've decided to try and install some brake ducting. Does anyone have any pics of there ducting and where i can get hold of the parts?

Any help much appreciated

[swordfish210 20]

Heres some of mine:

 

 

 

[maxirallye 2]

why not fit some bigger wheels and 6 pot brakes ....

 

After experiencing brake fade on my last event i've decided to try and install some brake ducting. Does anyone have any of there ducting and where i can get hold of the parts?

Any help much appreciated

[swordfish210 20]

why not fit some bigger wheels and 6 pot brakes ....

 

Silly me, i forgot to recomend that nice cheap option

[harryskid 193]

Heres some of mine:

 

 

 

 

Is the supply of air coming in to where the lights use to be?

[swordfish210 20]

Yes

[maxirallye 2]

Silly me, i forgot to recomend that nice cheap option

James car is over 250bhp, cooking alcon 4 pots , don't think there is a cheap solution in reality! However he does has the option on the six pots and 17 inch wheels/ slicks from my car now i am running 18 inch wrc rubber.

[Liquid_106 97 1 Cars]

After experiencing brake fade on my last event i've decided to try and install some brake ducting. Does anyone have any pics of there ducting and where i can get hold of the parts?

Any help much appreciated

Before you start on your ducting, have you thought about simply changing your fluid? Odds are it may be old and so contaminated (as all <I think> brake fluid is hygroscopic) and so will be less effective.

 

If you do swap it, why not upgrade to something a bit better than the usual, such as clicky (the blue variety).

 

Friend used it on his XE'd Nova (200bhp & 800ish kg) and never had any problems with brake fade, even on open pit lane days

Edited April 26, 2010 by Liquid_106

[jimmer 0]

why not fit some bigger wheels and 6 pot brakes ....

i wonder why you suggest that tony, maybe because your 17's are in my workshop looking for a new home.

Being a farmers son, its my duty to attempt it on the cheap with some baler cord, a 5 gallon drum and some bathroom silicon sealant.

Thinking of maybe creating some wishbone mounted delectors

[Cameron 16]

Demon Tweeks or a similar place for the parts. You should make some GRP shrouds to duct the air into the centre of the brake disc, that would be proper motorsport.

 

Can't find any decent pics.. something like this:

 

Blowing a bit of air at the side of the disc isn't going to do s*it frankly, you need the air to be ducted into the centre of the disc so it can pass through the cooling vents.

Edited April 26, 2010 by Cameron

[Cameron 16]

This is what you want!

 

[Batfink 201]

I found some pictures

 

type in 'brake cooling' in google to get loads

[Liquid_106 97 1 Cars]

Very cool!

[jimmer 0]

Before you start on your ducting, have you thought about simply changing your fluid? Odds are it may be old and so contaminated (as all <I think> brake fluid is hygroscopic) and so will be less effective.

 

If you do swap it, why not upgrade to something a bit better than the usual, such as clicky (the blue variety).

 

Friend used it on his XE'd Nova (200bhp & 800ish kg) and never had any problems with brake fade, even on open pit lane days

I'm running willwood EXP 600+ fluid already which has been in the lines for about a year at the most. How often should brake fluid be changed when under racing conditions?

[Batfink 201]

James car is over 250bhp, cooking alcon 4 pots , don't think there is a cheap solution in reality! However he does has the option on the six pots and 17 inch wheels/ slicks from my car now i am running 18 inch wrc rubber.

 

The amount of pistons will not have an effect on temperature control as its there to improve feel and pad surface contact. Bigger discs, better pads and fluid, and better cooling though ducts or more open faced alloys is the answer

[Liquid_106 97 1 Cars]

Can't beat a bit o' weave

[Batfink 201]

I'm running willwood EXP 600+ fluid already which has been in the lines for about a year at the most. How often should brake fluid be changed when under racing conditions?

 

That seems to have a good wet boiling point so its probably not your fluid that is a problem unless its old.

What pads do you have?

[maxirallye 2]

This is what you want!

 

James, you must have most of the ingredients for that in the back of your van, we can butcher one of your extraction fan kits, bit of fibreglass work, cheap solution!

[Liquid_106 97 1 Cars]

I'm running willwood EXP 600+ fluid already which has been in the lines for about a year at the most. How often should brake fluid be changed when under racing conditions?

Afraid I'd have to let someone more experienced answer.

[jimmer 0]

I found some pictures

 

type in 'brake cooling' in google to get loads

That looks like an ideal setup for a 205 with the calliper in front of the hub and the driveshaft to avoid.

I am also using OZ superleggera wheels which are pretty open fronted

[maxirallye 2]

That seems to have a good wet boiling point so its probably not your fluid that is a problem unless its old.

What pads do you have?

Performance friction carbon metallic pads.

[Liquid_106 97 1 Cars]

Thinking of maybe creating some wishbone mounted delectors

Such as:

Can't think how you'd attach it to the wishbone though

[Liquid_106 97 1 Cars]

What wheels do you run, as some 'hold' heat in more than others. My only point of reference are Cav slabs, more or less a solid disc so hold the heat in and brake fade is experienced a lot earlier, more so than with an open/multi spoked wheel.

[Batfink 201]

Performance friction carbon metallic pads.

 

Well its pretty hard to find any information on their pad compounds and temperature ranges so i'd change the brake fluid and try again.

What compound is fitted? I dont know what the operating ranges are for each one but its worth investigating whether you have the correct choice for the application.

[jimmer 0]

What wheels do you run, as some 'hold' heat in more than others. My only point of reference are Cav slabs, more or less a solid disc so hold the heat in and brake fade is experienced a lot earlier, more so than with an open/multi spoked wheel.

OZ Superleggera