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andyjstone

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andyjstone

I'm looking to get a quick rack and I've been told that square drive was fitted on late 1991 cars onwards, so I am assuming that as mine is a 1990 it has spline. Can anyone confirm from the pic below if this is spline or do I need to drop it off to check?

 

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jimistdt

I'm sat here with the splined u/j in my hand, and I have to say it looks a little different to yours Andy. to the left in the picture, mine is smooth and radiused, whereas yours isn't. !?

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welshpug

that looks like a square pinion to me, it has the metal clip on it that keeps the UJ on the pinion even if the bolt comes loose.

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woo83

I'd say that's the square drive although could be wrong, mines a square drive and thats also a 90.

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andyjstone

Do I have to take the rack out to double check, I'm sure Quaiffe would change it if I bought the wrong one, but I would rather get it right to start with?

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welshpug

turn the wheel 90 to the right and take another picture ;)

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andyjstone
turn the wheel 90 to the right and take another picture ;)

 

That's not so easy now - I took that pic while fitting a 309 ARB this afternoon, but now it's back in the garage - what would I be looking for 90 to the right then??

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welshpug

ahhh no worries, if you had taken a picture with the pinion/column turned 90 to the right from its pictured position you'd have seen the gap in the clamp, in that gap you can see if its a square or splined pinion.

 

from the picture above I'd say it was square though.

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andyjstone
ahhh no worries, if you had taken a picture with the pinion/column turned 90 to the right from its pictured position you'd have seen the gap in the clamp, in that gap you can see if its a square or splined pinion.

 

from the picture above I'd say it was square though.

 

OK, I'll jack it up in the week and take another look before ordering ;)

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harryskid

It would pay you to because i made that mistake when i ordered mine from Quaiffe. They changed it for me but it cost an extra tenner.

Harryskid :mellow::D

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Baz
I'm looking to get a quick rack and I've been told that square drive was fitted on late 1991 cars onwards, so

 

Other way around IMO!

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swordfish210

I don't know, mine is a 1992 and it's a square drive.

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jimistdt

Mines a '94 and splined.

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Baz

Yep, does seem to be totally random sometimes tbh, but the majority of later cars are splined in my experience, especially those with PAS.

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swordfish210
Yep, does seem to be totally random sometimes tbh,

 

Good old Peugeot, parts bin specials :mellow:

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petert

All the PAS racks I've seen are splined, and that's every 205 from 7/90 onwards in Oz.

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Paul_13

Looks like a square Andy, it's got the 'barbed' clip thing at the bottom of clamp. This is the same on the square one I had.

 

Just be warned about trying to find a bearing that will fit, I'm not sure if Quaife have started to sell one yet for a square drive.

 

My mate ryan had a Square type rack and bought a Splined quick rack and we managed to find a bearing to fit, I believe Ryan still has one spare if you need one.

Splined rack with splined quickrack (make sense?) is the easiest IMO to rebuild. If you need a hand mate i've built up three.

 

Alan M can get hold of bearings.

 

EDIT: I've found a PAS square drive in the past :wacko: Kyepan's got the linkage for his Xsara rack

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andyjstone
Looks like a square Andy, it's got the 'barbed' clip thing at the bottom of clamp. This is the same on the square one I had.

 

Just be warned about trying to find a bearing that will fit, I'm not sure if Quaife have started to sell one yet for a square drive.

 

My mate ryan had a Square type rack and bought a Splined quick rack and we managed to find a bearing to fit, I believe Ryan still has one spare if you need one.

Splined rack with splined quickrack (make sense?) is the easiest IMO to rebuild. If you need a hand mate i've built up three.

 

Alan M can get hold of bearings.

 

EDIT: I've found a PAS square drive in the past :wacko: Kyepan's got the linkage for his Xsara rack

 

But if I buy the complete Quaife square drive quick rack surely I don't need anything else, just bolt it on, or am I missing an important step??

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Paul_13
But if I buy the complete Quaife square drive quick rack surely I don't need anything else, just bolt it on, or am I missing an important step??

 

BEARING!

 

It's for the pinion mate, quaife don't supply these....

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andyjstone
BEARING!

 

It's for the pinion mate, quaife don't supply these....

 

Yes, I got that bit, but why do I need one or is it just best to replace it at the same time?

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Paul_13

You'll most likely bugger it when you take the pinion out, best practice to fit a new one.

 

Both i've rebuilt, the bearing fudged itself.

 

Mikey's got some Jenvy's for his 6.... :wacko:

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andyjstone
You'll most likely bugger it when you take the pinion out, best practice to fit a new one.

 

Both i've rebuilt, the bearing fudged itself.

 

Mikey's got some Jenvy's for his 6.... :wacko:

 

OK, cheers for that, have sent Alan M a PM.

 

Gotta love those Jenveys - cleared mine out at the weekend after fitting the 309 front ARB :)

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Paul_13

Let me know what rack you get, Ryan's got a few bearings spare from his, I'll see if he has one.

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finnthebt

Having just done a complete front subframe & suspension swap from a 1.9 to my 1.6 with everything already built up, had to change the bottom part of the column as theremoved rack was square drive, and replaced it with splined. I would also agree with all the other comments ref your rack being square drive, on the splined ones the column is attached with a nut and bolt and not the "roundheaded square shafted bolt type thing" shown in your photo!!

 

Now for the rear beam and brakes....

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