boldy205 74 Posted February 25, 2010 Dont all go mad, i know this is a silly product.Imm sure i have seen one somewhere, advertised as a strut brace, but actually was wondering if its usable as a harness bar? Am i correct in thinking these mount to the rear upper seat belt mounts? I have done a search, but found nothing, i think kit was a Spooks item i saw somewhere, but cant find it on their site. Really looking for pics, as i am thinking about making one. Many thanks Matt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marksorrento205 80 Posted February 25, 2010 I have seen a few that bolt / weld inbetween the rear inner wheel arches Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RossD 44 Posted February 25, 2010 I wouldn't trust it unless the area on the arches it is attached to is suitably reinforced..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marksorrento205 80 Posted February 25, 2010 I agree with that. I think if its that inportant to have a harness bar you would have a cage anyhow, and therefore a harness bar welded in. But thats my opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
welshpug 1,645 Posted February 25, 2010 I'd get a harness bar attached to the cage myself. also, ask the sellers to show you the rear struts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marksorrento205 80 Posted February 25, 2010 (edited) I'd get a harness bar attached to the cage myself. Thats what I meant above just wrote it like a spaz Edited February 25, 2010 by marksorrento205 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Henry Yorke 269 3 Cars Posted February 25, 2010 I think was a "tuning" company in Leicester used to sell them that bolted onto the rear arches. I would doubt that was a secure enough place to pass a proper MOT fro the reasons mentioned above. I would try and mount to the standard rear seatbelt mounting points as a minimum as they are pretty thick and reinforced as has been said Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boldy205 74 Posted February 26, 2010 Thanks for the replies, i thought the ones i seen were made to bolt between the rear seats upper belt mount, but now you say, i think they were on the inner arches, which i would nt mount to anyway. Think i will try to make up a bar to go between the rear seats upper belt mount. Many thanks Matt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davey sprocket 14 Posted February 26, 2010 If you did want something mounted between the rear seatbelt holes..... there's some inpriration here. Bit of a pain to download the article but a good read and Nick (GTI6BOY) has done exactly what you were suggesting. Has to be said though, I'd rather it was part of a proper cage! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miles 331 1 Cars Posted February 26, 2010 Anywhere in the back without a cage is pointless even if re-enforced, Have you seen how badly the back crush's if in any sort of acident? But then the std points are not much better Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boldy205 74 Posted February 27, 2010 I do have a cage in the car. A C12 safety devices. Im a bit reluctant to go butchering the cage to be honest. So my idea is a bad one then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
welshpug 1,645 Posted February 27, 2010 no need to "butcher" the cage, you only need to add a harness bar Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boldy205 74 Posted February 27, 2010 This is true. I suppose it would be ok. Sod it, im getting the welder out! On second thoughts, MILES:you said about the rear of the cars not being very strong, did you realise i had the cage and was thinking of mounting the harness bar to the rear upper seatbelt mounts? Thanks Matt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
welshpug 1,645 Posted February 27, 2010 have you got a bar to go in? If not I'd get in touch with Dan on the 106 Rallye register, he works for Caged not far from bath and I'm sure could get a piece of tube mitred etc ready to go in, he made some cage feet for my brothers Saxo from a template i drew and they were spot on Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kate205gti 4 Posted February 27, 2010 ive got a rear strut brace in mine - absolutely pointless and wouldnt attach anything important to it!! but - it is in just the right place to hold a gearbox secure in your boot without it shifting around also handy for holding tool boxes in place def dont attach harnesses to it thou it fits on the flimsiest inner arch bit and would come straight out in a crash Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miles 331 1 Cars Posted February 27, 2010 This is what I do to the C12 cage's I fit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boldy205 74 Posted February 28, 2010 I like that Miles! Im goin to weld the harness bar to the cage, and the idea of another brace looks good! Thanks! I wouldnt mount a harness bar to the inner arches dont worry! Not even a carpenter like me would bodge it up that bad!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SurGie 54 Posted March 1, 2010 (edited) Would there be more strength/stability of the cage if the floor mounting part of the cage was bolted to the beam bots ? Edited March 1, 2010 by SurGie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boldy205 74 Posted March 1, 2010 Surgie: i too have thought this, i think the the idea of mounting to the boot floor is a bit odd when you have the beam mounts to go too?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
welshpug 1,645 Posted March 1, 2010 the boot floor is a few layers thick at the side there, though I can't remember looking at the underneath of where its mounted whether there's a crossmember there, it might be further back than that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boldy205 74 Posted March 3, 2010 Thinking about it, it was a bit of a swine to bolt the rear feet, think it was a chassis leg/cross member type thing there! Thanks for the replies everyone, i have notched a piece of 38mm CDS to fit, and will get the old man to weld it on sunday! Will post a few pics up if i have time! Cheers Matt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
