[project] Peugeot 205 Twin Turbo

[wracing 19]

Pete were abouts did you get your engine mounts from and how much?? ive looked on the BBM website but i cant see the solid ones??

 

Thanks

 

james

[welshpug 1,657]

Pete were abouts did you get your engine mounts from and how much?? ive looked on the BBM website but i cant see the solid ones??

 

Thanks

 

james

 

 

http://bakerbm.com/205.php?data=engkitn205

[wracing 19]

those are the ones i found i was hoping for some solid ones!

 

 

Thanks

 

james

[welshpug 1,657]

they are Solid, solid rubber!

[hcmini1989 16]

those are the ones i found i was hoping for some solid ones!

 

 

Thanks

 

james

i wouldnt put solid ones on mate shake your fillings out .i had some on my old mini and i couldnt see where i was going as my glasses used to viberate that much everything was a blur .

 

project is coming along nicely mate .i have to agree with pete when im looking at your project i realise im know f*** all

[wracing 19]

Sorry mate when i say solid i mean solid as in steel. I should have explained myself better. i know constella do a solid lower mount i just want the rest.

 

I know the vibrations going to be s*it i'm just not to confident in the rubber holding her in the engine bay.

 

Thanks

 

james

Edited March 9, 2010 by wracing

[welshpug 1,657]

I know quite a few of the proper group A mounts from Peugeot sport for later cars were a large alloy lump with a small wishbone bush like insert in the middle, some of the gearbox and top right engine mountings were made very similarly.

[pugpete1108 62 1 Cars]

Pete were abouts did you get your engine mounts from and how much?? ive looked on the BBM website but i cant see the solid ones??

 

Thanks

 

james

 

 

 

http://bakerbm.com/205.php?data=engkitn205

 

these would be the ones i have James, they will be ok for me but i doubt they will hold up for yours ?

 

i have seen solid ally ones (lower) somewhere but cant remember where, not sure if you can get the upper ones tho? god that would be a sh*t ride with all solid mounts surely?

[wracing 19]

I know these issues dont really come to mind when you start such a project. Im almost tempted to fab my own I would be using the engine a strut brace

 

Thanks

 

James

[pugpete1108 62 1 Cars]

I know these issues dont really come to mind when you start such a project. Im almost tempted to fab my own I would be using the engine a strut brace

 

Thanks

 

James

 

surely you will need to strengthen the shell somwhat for this? as it'll rip it apart on acceleration.

[wracing 19]

The cage comes through onto the front struts and then im triangulating from there. It is catch 22 thought the more strength i add the harder the engine is to remove!!

 

Thanks

 

James

[welshpug 1,657]

Can't remember who's car this is/was, but I think its a Peugeot sport shell.

 

Edited March 9, 2010 by welshpug

[wracing 19]

I like that setup, ill have to see if i can replicate something similar!!

 

Thanks

 

James

[DrSarty 90 1 Cars]

I like that setup, ill have to see if i can replicate something similar!!

 

YOU certainly can James. Of that I have no doubt.

 

Only thing I don't get is your comment about Megasquirt. Yes it's not viewed favourably, but purely based on what typically happens. The equipment is fine (providing it's built properly) but I can't quite see why you say an Emerald, or DTA couldn't provide all of the same features if not more.

 

The only way I could possibly believe this is if you customise your own MS board, and in that case it's a custom ECU.

[wracing 19]

You hit the nail on the hear customized code and hardware. I think the Bosch motorsport ecus have the flexibility that i need but have you seen the price!!!

 

Thanks

 

James

[welshpug 1,657]

yeah, Beru and Magnetti Marelli I have seen on WRC cars, they could do all you wanted, and a a lot more quite likely, but they'll cost an immense amount of money.

[wracing 19]

 

Just a little image trying to explain the setup. please excuse the crudeness, but it think it shows everything. the car has a small compressor supplying the valves.

 

stage 1:

 

38mm waste gate open, 50mm wastegate closed, all exhaust passing through the the small turbo.

 

stage 2:

 

38mm waste gate closed, 50mm wastegate modulating some exaust been bypassed.

 

stage 3:

 

38mm wastegate closed, 50mm wastegate open, all exaust bypassed into the large turbo, quick spool valve closed.

 

stage 4:

 

38mm wastegate closed, 50mm wastegate open, all exaust bypassed into the large turbo, quick spool valve open. (we may not use this stage)

 

stage 5:

 

38mm waste gate open.

 

The reason dta, emerald..... are not suitable is because on top of the normal fuelling and ignition i need 3 pwm outputs with pid control loops on each.

 

Thanks

 

james

[All Praise The GTI 3]

impressive stuff but i stil have no idea what your on about lol

stew (bbm)s mounts are allot harder then you might think but for such a build as yours mate id fabricate your own. ones in welshpugs pics looks real smart

Edited March 10, 2010 by All Praise The GTI

[qwerty 9]

everytime i read topics like this i suddenly feel rather thick

 

 

pleased am not the only one then

[wracing 19]

More progress this morning, some throttle bodies have been delivered courtesy of a forum member. Very well prepared a small amount of porting needed and ive got to install the secondary fuel rail.

 

260cc/mins on the inner fuel rail @3bar

400cc/mins on the outer fuel rail @3bar

 

 

 

 

 

Simon has finished the dash, unfortunately when I cut the holes i made them slightly to small and needed to be taken out with a die grinder!

 

Still need to fully weld and finish with a grinder!

 

 

Thanks

 

James

Edited March 13, 2010 by wracing

[DrSarty 90 1 Cars]

Just a shame to see a bodge with the silicon joiners. Not up to your usual standard.

 

I know they came that way, but I'm sure someone of your fabrication skills can do better.

[wracing 19]

In my defence I've got the alloy flanges, they are currently been laser cut, hopefully they should be ready soon, i just need to mock the manifold up to stay on deadline! due to the fact that the plenum entrance is on the opposite side to standard I couldn't really justify fabricating anything for a temporary solution.

 

I've been working on the head, and a little bit more on the intake manifold, while simon has been degreasing and cleaning the block. Really I wanted a black block but we have gone with red to make life easy as far as oil leaks are concerned

 

I have dead headed the fuel rail on the secondary injectors to allow us to run an after market regulator.

 

 

 

Thanks

 

James

Edited March 13, 2010 by wracing

[wracing 19]

Massive amounts of work today, engine built and just need final torquing up once the fixings have settled. Some pictures to explain all.

 

 

Some forged rods hiding in there somewhere!

 

 

Showing the head ready for building up.

 

 

Forged pistons, hopefully should take the strain

 

 

Finished bottom end all oiled and ready for running

 

 

You gotta love how clean and shiny!!

 

 

Finishing the cams just needing to be oiled.

 

 

 

 

 

:D :D

 

Thanks

 

James

Edited March 14, 2010 by wracing

[qwerty 9]

I so cant wait to see this running

 

really interested in how its going to perform

[wracing 19]

I forgot to mention that we will be running on std cams in the run in process, then swapping over to new shiny ones

 

Thanks

 

James