Which Leads To Use

[hcmini1989 16]

right i now this has been covered before .im running a ford coilpack with megasquirt .on a mi16 engine.and the leads that seem to be best are the feista rs turbo ones .but i have found some escort leads of i think a 1300 engine .and they are a really nice fit they sit a bit far down in the plug hole .

 

but why is no one else using them is there some sort of resistance issue .i have yet to get my car running so im just elliminating things

Edited December 13, 2009 by hcmini1989

[hcmini1989 16]

allso can anyone help me with the trigger settings its a standard mi flywheel 60-2 teeth all i need to know is the trigger position a settings and return and trigger b .i have done a search but cant realy seem to find anything on this

[hcmini1989 16]

allso can anyone help me with the trigger settings its a standard mi flywheel 60-2 teeth all i need to know is the trigger position a settings and return and trigger b .i have done a search but cant realy seem to find anything on this

never mind found some settings .still unsure with the leads though

Edited December 13, 2009 by hcmini1989

[Nitropixie 0]

Why dont you use peugeot coil pack and then you should be able to use OE leads??

[pugpete1108 62 1 Cars]

i think i'm using escort 1300 leads on my ford pack and it seems to be ok, i'm gonna fit a capacitor (as used on the ford coil packs ) to help smooth things out.

as the spark does seem to be a little irratic at the mo.

 

i have a pug coil pack here but found the leads did not fit down the holes in the head where the plugs sit, but then i'm running a gti6 not mi16 so the holes might be different??

 

with regards to the trigger settings, look a little way down this page and use the wheel decoder and it will give you the correct settings to use:

 

wheel decoder

 

pete

Edited December 13, 2009 by pugpete1108

[hcmini1989 16]

cheers for that got it running last night

[hcmini1989 16]

cheers for that got it running last night

 

ok got it running and reving its a bit knocky .so still needs alot of tweaking just wanted confirmation about my trigger settings to see if there right its a standard mi flywheel ive got

trigger pos A-10

trigger return pos A-18

trigger pos B pos-40

trigger return pos B -48

 

and some help with spark dwell ive got

 

cranking dwell ms 8.0

running dwell ms 4.0

minumum dishcharge period ms 1.0

 

im using ford wasted spark coil pack

 

 

thanks for help

Edited December 17, 2009 by hcmini1989

[pugpete1108 62 1 Cars]

ok got it running and reving its a bit knocky .so still needs alot of tweaking just wanted confirmation about my trigger settings to see if there right its a standard mi flywheel ive got

trigger pos A-10

trigger return pos A-18

trigger pos B pos-40

trigger return pos B -48

 

and some help with spark dwell ive got

 

cranking dwell ms 8.0

running dwell ms 4.0

minumum dishcharge period ms 1.0

 

im using ford wasted spark coil pack

 

 

thanks for help

 

trigger sounds about right to me with a std fly with tooth 20 under the sensor at tdc cyl1.

 

i'm not using trigger return on my setup i'm using timing based (i read that when using a vr sensor you must use timing based??) which means you set the returns to 0 and change the setting to timing based in spark settings.

 

tbh though it seems to run either way but i have stuck with timing based anyway.

 

i'm only running 6.0ms cranking and i think 4.0 running dwell for the ford pack as reccomended by someone on the ms forum.

 

what you want to do it pysically check the spark is coming when commanded using a timing light like this:

 

' When the engine is first started this is the angle that needs to be altered to get the spark fired at the correct time, this is done by setting the "Fixed Angle" (this ignores the spark map and holds the sparked angle to the value you enter) to around 10deg and, using a timing light, ensure the ECU is firing the coil at the Fixed Angle. If the timing is not being fired at the fixed angle then alter the "Trigger Angle" until the timing is at the fixed angle. Once the Trigger Angle has been changed so the Fixed Angle is being fired by the ECU then change the Fixed Angle back to -10 so the ECU will follow the spark map.

Typically you should aim for a Trigger Angle of 60-70deg or 0-5deg as this is outside the usual range that the spark is needed. (this can be altered by using a different tooth for triggering on the wheel decoder or by altering the sensor position on MSnS setups)

If using an OEM distributor setup like HEI7 or TFI then 5-15deg is typical, see the relevant section earlier.'

[pee vee 1]

you will almost certainly see NO difference by running RST leads (what i use) to normal 1300 ones... so if they fit better, then stick with em