New Loom Pins, ?

[Spiky 37]

from the first PDF,

 

part 20 and 30, female and male pins.

 

1 and 2 are the male/female plug parts.

 

part 3 as far as I can make out is a complete 2 pin plug male and female parts minus pins.

 

and the second one -

 

part 20 and 30, female and male pins.

 

1 and 2 are the male/female plug parts.

 

 

the pins, is fine,

 

2 pin plug is fine.

 

BUT

 

for parts 1 and 2 on the first PDF, they are all colours of cable, and not the actuall plugs

 

as i have translated all the names and they are colours

[Spiky 37]

ah i get it, this is for the whole car isn't it, and not just the two plugs i'm interested in

[GLPoomobile 958]

As WP said, 20 and 30 covers the terminal part numbers. Notice it gives the measurements for the terminals.

 

Stating the obvious (possibly) but make sure you get the right size terminal for the type of wire being used. I bought my terminals as per the OE wire sizes, so when I came to crimp them on to my thinwall cable they didn't make such a tidy crimp because of the thinner wire.

[Spiky 37]

cheers for the heads up on cable thickness , as i use thin wall too

 

as for the female 6 and 9 pin plugs

 

for 6 pin plug i have 6541 a9 yellow/jaune as thats the one 6 pin female there

 

for 9 pin plug i have 6541 c3 brown/marron

 

that seem right?

[welshpug 1,657]

looks correct yes, I can't see a female 6 pin in brown on those pdfs, but they are the only PDF's I have with those plugs on.

[Spiky 37]

cool,

 

will order some tomorrow with some pins and see what turns up

[SurGie 54]

A little of topic but do the brown plugs separate into two when detaching them, one for the inside of car and the other for the end of the loom ?

Or does the car loom wires have to un-plug from the brown engine plug loom ?

 

Cheers

[Spiky 37]

The engine loom attach's to the car loom using the two brown plugs.

[SurGie 54]

I'l re-phase what i meant, how do you take/unplug the brown plugs from the car.

 

Iv tried but to no avail, do i pull the wires from the brown plug to get the engine loom out?

 

cheers

[welshpug 1,657]

grab the two halves and, err, pull!

 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 26, 2009 by welshpug

[Spiky 37]

Lol,that's what I wanted to reply with

 

Ordered a set of plugs and pins, so will see what get

[SurGie 54]

Omg have i pulled them, i will try again and again till they unplug.

I just did not want to damage them and they look like the dont come in two halves, they look like one whole plug.

 

Cheers..

 

EDIT> sorry for the thread hyjack..

Edited November 26, 2009 by SurGie

[welshpug 1,657]

how did you get on Spiky? might need some of the terminals for my 309 as it has a bad earth issue, sods law it had to show up MOT time

[Spiky 37]

Picked them up today. They correct

[welshpug 1,657]

nice one

[GLPoomobile 958]

Spiky, have you read my long topic from ages ago about building a loom?

 

If not, take a look at one of the last pages for a post I made a few weeks back. It relates to the problems I had due to the switched live being loose within the brown plug. This was due to using thinwall cable. Wouldn't want you to make the same mistake if you are making looms for other people

[Spiky 37]

i hadn't, but i have now

 

for the red wire, i will put two pins in back to back, as thats how the OE setup is and is fine and i am using OE pins, so all will be fine*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

* i hope, though i will know straight away, from movement

[GLPoomobile 958]

So the 2 pins back to back WAS the OE way! I just assumed it was more of DES' bodgery

[Spiky 37]

once you mentioned it was loose, i knew straight away

 

but yeah, thats the standard way that pug did it, as it feeds two off one switched live (coil and tacho relay i think)

[Alastairh 47]

Spiky, what crimping tool are you using with these pins?

 

Al

[Spiky 37]

i got a hammer to use

 

joke aside, my friend has a non insulated terminal crimper

 

i also solder all connections and join's

[welshpug 1,657]

a pair of these do the job

 

[GLPoomobile 958]

Pretty sure that's the ones I use. So long as you match the correct size terminal to the size of wire being crimped, and obviously use the right section of the tool, you can make lovely clean crimps And it's dead easy to get the hang of.

 

When I was thinking of making my loom, the nay-sayers claimed that I'd never get good crimps with cheapo ratchet crimping tools, and that you need £200 professional quality ones. Well I'm perfectly happy with what I've achieved and can't see any quality difference compared to factory crimped wires.

[Anthony 1,003]

As Servicebox is playing silly-sods at the moment, can you tell me how much the plugs and pins were?

[welshpug 1,657]

I agree with your comments there, its exactly the tool I used when I was working in a slot machine factory, granted it wasn't military spec equipment, but we had no issues.