[race_prep] Guernsey Hillclimb 205 Build

[wardy18 33 1 Cars]

Happy New Year all

 

Finally found some time to pop on here and say hi......

 

Winter Update as follows:

 

Last 1/4 sprint left the car jammed in 4th after the 1st run, finally got round to removing the box 2 weeks ago and found 3 smashed synchros, thats a full house for BE synchros.......bo**ox!!

 

Currently pricing up Dog Gears, so far Drenth has come up strongest (but waiting for them to confirm they can deduct VAT for me) if they can it comes to £2400 excluding a Final Drive as their kit utilises the OEM FD's so get myself a BE3 4:4 FD and happy days, however they have upgraded the primary shaft spline diameter to 21.9mm so i have to buy 2 new clutch plates too!!

 

Plus i have to wangle that sort of spends past a pregnant wife soon to give birth.....(its hard work)

 

Watch this space....

[alexcrosse 124]

shame drenth BE's aren't the strongest physically.

[wardy18 33 1 Cars]

shame drenth BE's aren't the strongest physically.

 

Thats not what i want to hear..... more info plz?

 

Its either them or Samsonas costing about £2850, never heard of Samsonas though , Lithuanian if i remember rightly

[welshpug 1,661]

Who else have you asked so far? Sadev, avanti and bacci romano do BE stuff

 

How much torque are we talking now?

[wardy18 33 1 Cars]

203lbft

 

Avanti were ridiculous money ie £5695

 

Sadev have discontinued their BE gear set

 

Bacci Romano again ridiculous money.....

 

Also emailed RW Racing in the Netherlands but no reply (probably cant read my email)

 

Also email Xtrac but £££££££ from what i seen and heard

[welshpug 1,661]

what price is reliability?

[wardy18 33 1 Cars]

depends on warranty...... extreme price doesn't necessarily equal reliability...... just gives that impression to customers!!

[alexcrosse 124]

unless you have about 30k weighing you down there is no point emailing xtrac.

 

drenth friction weld dogs to their gears (2nd and 3rd iirc) and they unweld themselves and you loose all drive.

 

 

-and sadly 5k isnt ridiculous money for a dogbox... its about right.

Edited January 22, 2013 by alexcrosse

[welshpug 1,661]

AFAIK you don't tend to get warranty on stuff used in competition...

[EdCherry 34 1 Cars]

AFAIK you don't tend to get warranty on stuff used in competition...

 

Not true... very few people give it but I certainly have used companies because of the warranties they are happy to give on there competition products.

[wardy18 33 1 Cars]

A little treat

 

http://s868.beta.photobucket.com/user/Wardy18/library/2011-12%20Racing%20Pics

[cybernck 402 1 Cars]

Add some to the car gallery as well .

[kyepan 291]

i know this is going to sound silly, but... there was a chap on here i think who monitored the temp of his box, and realised his box failures were down to overheating oil, he put on a remote oil cooler to the box and didn't suffer any more failures.

 

Worth investigating perhaps.

[allye 530 3 Cars]

i know this is going to sound silly, but... there was a chap on here i think who monitored the temp of his box, and realised his box failures were down to overheating oil, he put on a remote oil cooler to the box and didn't suffer any more failures.

 

Worth investigating perhaps.

 

That was wracing.

[kyepan 291]

sorry I don't remember, but he monitored he temperature and notice it would spike under heavy load. I think he went into why the sheer strength of the oil reduced Massivly beyond a certain temperature range.. That's a typical example of my memory remembering bits but not who or when or where...

[wardy18 33 1 Cars]

Interesting, i only run the standard 75x80 oil nothing special, anyone recommend any better for my situation??

[alexcrosse 124]

what diff you do have? I just filled mine with millers motorsport 75w90 nano tech after some research and recommendation. Will be interested to see how it gets on.

[wardy18 33 1 Cars]

Gripper

[alexcrosse 124]

yer opie say the oil is good for plates and syncros which is interesting, although other websites contradict it. But I have a good opinion of miller, so thought it most suited to prolong both my peugeot sport box and zf diff.

 

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-60230-millers-oils-crx-75w90-nt-competition-full-synthetic-transmission-oil.aspx

[wicked 103 3 Cars]

Plate diffs should get mineral oil and no synthetic oil.

And that's pity since the operation range of synthetic oil goes higher and you don't fit gripper to have an easy drive on sunday afternoon.

Edited January 24, 2013 by wicked

[wardy18 33 1 Cars]

I have no idea about oils to be fair so any recommendations and discussions more than welcome as i will be needing to purchase some asap as planning on fitting the box back in next weekend!!

[alexcrosse 124]

Silkolene syntran syn5 or Millers. Both fully synthetic.

[wardy18 33 1 Cars]

Reply from Johan Drenth re warranty and gears welding:

 

Hello Simon,

 

Motorsport and warranty thus not exist. We guaranty that our products are good and do not fall

in pieces after one race when use where they are designed and produced for.

 

The problem with welded gears 3rd 4th 5th you mention is from history. Since 2005 these gears

are electron beam welded and we have never seen these come lose.

 

Look forward to hear from you, for questions please ask.

 

 

Kind regards,

Mit Freundlichen Gruss,

Meilleures salutations,

Met vriendelijke Groet,

 

Johan Drenth

Managing Director

Drenth Motorsport Gearboxes. b.v.

 

[alexcrosse 124]

Lol, well he would say that. They shouldn't be welded really, should be machined from one.

[alexcrosse 124]

I believe KAD are looking to produce a dog box and/or make replacement 1 piece gears for the drenth.