6 Speed G/box Conversion

[aCe 0]

Hey guys,

at the final stages of my conversion and am a little concerned as when i topped up the g/box oil the n/s (short) driveshaft seal started leaking. I investigated and found that it looks as the shaft is sitting 5mm out from where it used to on the BE1 1.6 box i had before.

 

The other side has seated correctly so i measured the distance from the seal to the centre of the diff and its less than the old g/box. So what do i do? do i need diffent seals, diff?

 

 

P.S i have tried to force it in and bang but that is not happening?

[All Praise The GTI 3]

i think you need to use the inner end from the 6 shaft mate. that or some people cut 5mm off the end of the standard shaft

nat

[aCe 0]

that would make sense to use the inner joint i guess, is this a definite then?

 

Are all 306 joints the same

[All Praise The GTI 3]

sorry not sure mate. i had do this when i used my vts box. but now i can use standard ones with my tran x

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

Either swap the Diff for the older BE type or find a BE inner shaft and swap over.

[aCe 0]

Right cheers miles i think i might find another inner joint, do you know wether all be3 306 models will fit?

[Batfink 201]

I never had any issues with a 1.9 driveshaft but the oil seal needed to be slightly sticking out of the dif casing, ie not sitting flush...

That was with a 1.9 driveshaft..

[aCe 0]

i take it there is a differnec in BE1 and BE3 N/S driveshaft inner joints then?

 

is this the case for just the short one or both?

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

The late BE3 or BE4 box's as found in 306's & 406's etc use a revised Diff and hense the inner shaft being shorter and the earlier shafts won;t fit as they are too long

Early BE3 and all BE1's use the same shafts and diff

[aCe 0]

ok so i just need the one shaft as the longer one is that same?

 

And i need a late type one? - off too the scrapy then lol

[maxi 36 1 Cars]

I ran a 6 speed box back in around 2003 coupled to my mi lump and std 1600 driveshafts. Had no problem at all.

 

I now run a late xsara VTS box in my latest 205, again, no problems at all. Obviously you used new driveshaft oil seals in there?

 

This is a strange one as some people on here do seem to suffer problems and some (including myself, taylorspug and everyone else I know to run one of these later boxes) dont.

 

Maxi

[welshpug 1,661]

you all run LSD's don't you though? the difference is the diff as Miles mentioned.

[aCe 0]

Yes new seals but they can't seal as the seated part on the shaft sticks out to far.

 

Mine is a BE1 1.6 i think thats why i had problems, so i'm off to the breakers on sat to start stripping a few shafts to have a look

[maxi 36 1 Cars]

you all run LSD's don't you though? the difference is the diff as Miles mentioned.

 

 

Nope. Std VTS diff.

 

Maxi

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

As said the later Diff is different, The inner shaft is the same as the ZF ones which Pug Sport sold for around £1000.00 from memory

I guess it's the make of the recon shafts which makes a differance to some fitting and some not, I just checked the VTS box I have at the workshop and the same thing, The shaft doesn;t seal.

Maxi, Why on Earth are you running a std Diff with the power you've got

[maxi 36 1 Cars]

As said the later Diff is different, The inner shaft is the same as the ZF ones which Pug Sport sold for around £1000.00 from memory

I guess it's the make of the recon shafts which makes a differance to some fitting and some not, I just checked the VTS box I have at the workshop and the same thing, The shaft doesn;t seal.

Maxi, Why on Earth are you running a std Diff with the power you've got

 

 

Because id rather it broke traction than break a shaft or any other part of the drivetrain. Although, having said that, with the 888's on, on a dry day, it hardly wheelspins.

 

I might upgrade to an LSD at some point but its not at the top of my shopping list.

 

Maxi