Starting Problem Fixed

[Jean_quemener 0]

Just use this to fix my starting problem

http://forum.205gtidrivers.com/index.php?s...=99250&st=0

and now starts first time every time so far but the starter motor does not stop unless i pull out the like batter feed or the old blue sater solinoid wire plz help ?

Edited July 25, 2009 by Jean_quemener

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So what have you done? Is it fit a relay? If so how have you wired it.

[Jean_quemener 0]

i have done to the detail what has been said in the post, but for sum reason the starter motor is still getting power once the engine is startered and running

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I would take the output to the starter motor off then turn the key to crank and see if you can hear the realy clicking or better can you put a meter on it (or bulb)

I would also double check how you have fitted the relay .

If you have wired it as per the post it should work.

[Jean_quemener 0]

relay is wired in fine as the post says, just disconected the starter feed and thre is no clicking tobe heard from the relay, does this lead me to believe that the relay is duff?

[Paul_13 212 1 Cars]

You haven't touched the brown multiplugs have you?

[Jean_quemener 0]

nope not at all there still there, nice to see a fellow BMXer

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No you will only get the clicking when you remove the the coil wire (the blue one to pin 85).

removing the wire to the starter is just so you can test with out turning the engine over all the time.

 

If the relay is ok you will need to test the voltage on that blue wire that used to go to the starter motor but now goes to the relay.

You should only have voltage when the key is turned to the cranking position (position 3).

 

just re read the first post , by the sounds of it the blue wire is staying live. Have you run a new wire from the brown plug under the dash?

If not I would have a look at the ing switch.

[Jean_quemener 0]

nope havent run a new wire from the brown plug under the dash didnt konw i had to, ive put in a hole new ing barrel and lead upto that brown plug that down by the peddeles about a month ago as i though that mite be the oringinal problem with the car starting but kow know different, only thing though the barrel was from a CJ that wont matter will it ?

[Paul_13 212 1 Cars]

Any decent places to ride in Jersey?

 

Sounds like something mixed up on the ignition barrel, can't imagine it would matter being a CJ. You never know though

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I would check that you are only getting a live out on the blue wire when you are turning the key to start the car. When you let it spring back the voltage should drop off.

[Jean_quemener 0]

nope none at all, i have a mate who lives in exerter so i normaly pop over and see him and we just hit spots near him, we have a skate park but its tiny, me and a few mates have benn working on some trails but there is only 3 of us digging so its taking its sweet time haha. welll back to the problem, im gonna get the reylay checked at work tomorrow to make sure its not that that broken, gonna borrow a multi meter from work as well so i can check the blue wire to make sure its not giving a constant feed after that im running out of ideas, only other thing i can thik of would be to fit a push button start as well.

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If when you remove the blue wire from the relay the starter motor stops I would say the relay is ok and you are getting a feed all the time.

As for a multimeter just tape some wire to a bulb and job done.

[Jean_quemener 0]

just disconected the blue wire from the realy and plugged it into my build and when i turn the key to start the car the light comes on then goes of, so im not getting a constant feed fropm the blue wire, best to check the relay now then.

[Jean_quemener 0]

rite the realy is fine nothing wrong there i done a bit more testing, when the blue wire (45) is attached tothe realy when the key turns back to position 2 there is still power to it , so i take it this is my problem but i put a bulb on the blue wire and turn the key to position 3 then back to 2 the light come on then off. this is leaving me very confused now. if im getting a constant feed with the blue wire how come the starter wasn't going all the time before?

Edited July 27, 2009 by Jean_quemener

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You may have a bad ing switch not disengaging fully. I.E. 9v not enough to engage the starter but will light the bulb.

[Jean_quemener 0]

rite taken a look a the relay and i have been sold a 30v not 25v, gonna get a 25v 2morrow but is this likly to be the problem, yeha i have a mate whos going to give me a ing that he knows is sound so gonna over all bases hear, thanks alot for all the help haha

Edited July 27, 2009 by Jean_quemener

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It almost sounds like it's not a 'normal' switching relay. It sounds like you have the other type of relay that switches on when given a current and then stays in that position, and then needs to be supplied with a current again to switch off. But when I looked at relays on the VWP website, the relay that I'm talking about looked quite different.

[Jean_quemener 0]

rite i have got my hands on a multimeter adn tested the blue wire with this and its still reciving power when in position 2, im gonna try and get my hand on that hole new ing switch and plug in it and see if thats the problem if not well im well and truely out of idea, just have to go back to the clicking haha

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The relay you want should be 12v (not 30 or 25) do you mean 30 amps, that would not make any difference.

[Jean_quemener 0]

Thanks for all the help guy, i have just wired in a push buton start now instead and all is working fine now, the blue wire no longer!