Off Side Tail Lights

[mogsman 2]

Hi all, my offside tail lights have stopped working. The nearside cluster is working fine. On the offside I'm not getting any power to the plug on the pink wire, which after a search found out to be #63. The haynes joke book doesn't show a 63 which my wire goes along the rear to the nearside and into the loom not directly into the cluster. Is there any simple fix to get my side lights working again?

Ian

[pug_ham 244 3 Cars]

Has your car had a phase 2 conversion kit fitted or was it phase 2 originally?

 

Unfortunately haynes doesn't cover the phase 2 rear lights but it sounds like your car is originally a phase 2 as the offside lights have a seperate loom that runs directly to that light instead of va the nearside one on phase 1 cars.

 

Check that fuse #12 isn't blown, thats the power supply fuse for the rear side lamp - right.

 

Graham.

[mogsman 2]

I've put in a 10A fuse and all is well. Is 10A the right fuse? I took out fuses 6 and 12 last week as the haynes joke book say they are spare when I put in electric windows. Obviously fuse 12 does the offside tail light but is fuse 6 spare? The car is a phase 2 91 1.6 gti.

Ian

[pug_ham 244 3 Cars]

The handbook from a phase 2 I have here says 5A for fuse #12 but the fuses are different to the phase 1 cars but the haynes listing for models post 1991 is wrong imo when compared to the listing from a phase 2 owners manual.

 

Fuses (early models);

• 1; Reverse light, cooling fan relay, tachometer (GTI) . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10A
  
• 2; Accessories, indicators, fuel gauge, warning lights, heater blower motor . . . . . . 25A
  
• 3; Ignition switch, wash/wipe system, stop-lights, tachometer (non-GTI option),
  radio, heated rear window, electric window relay (option), clock illumination (GTI). . . . .25A
  
• 4; Central door locking (option) . . . . 10A
  
• 5; Cooling fan . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 25A
  
• 6; Hazard warning switch . . . . . . . . . . . 10A
  
• 7; Spare
  
• 8; Cigarette lighter, clock, interior lights, glovebox illumination, radio . . 20
  
• 9; Electric front windows . . . . . . 25A
  
• 10; Heated rear window, horns . . . . 20A
  
• 11; Rear foglight . . . . . . . 5A
  
• 12; Side/tail lights/warning light, instrument panel illumination, number plate lights . . . . . . 5A
  
• 13; (In-line) fuel pump (GTI) . . . . .25A
  

 

Fuses (1986 to 1988 GTI and CTI models);

• 1; Reversing lights, tachometer . . . . . . . . . . . .10A
  
• 2; Direction indicators, heater blower motor, oil pressure gauge, oil temperature gauge,
  heated seats, fuel gauge, coolant temperature gauge, low battery charge warning, oil pressure warning,
  brake system warning, coolant temperature warning, low coolant level warning . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 25A
  
• 3; Windscreen wiper/washer, stop-lights, headlight washer, radio, accessories . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .25A
  
• 4; Spare
  
• 5; Hazard warning . . . . . . . . . . . . 10A
  
• 6; Spare
  
• 7; Cigarette lighter, clock, interior lights, boot light, central door locking, radio . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .25A
  
• 8; Horns . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 25A
  
• 9; Electrically-operated windows . . . . . . . . . . . . . .20A
  
• 10; Rear foglight . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .5A
  
• 11; Tail light (RH), number plate light . . . . . . . . . 5A
  
• 12; Tail light (LH) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .5A
  
• 13; Instrument panel illumination, side lights . . . . . . . 5A
  
• 14; Fuel pump . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 15A
  

 

Fuses (1988 to 1989 GTI and CTI models);

• 1; Reversing lights, tachometer . . . . . . . . . . . . 10A
  
• 2; Direction indicators, heater blower motor, oil pressure gauge, oil temperature gauge, heated seats,
  fuel gauge, coolant temperature gauge, low battery charge warning, oil pressure warning, brake system warning,
  coolant temperature warning, low coolant level warning . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 25A
  
• 3; Front and rear wash/wipe, stop-lights, headlight washer, radio, accessories, storage tray light, map reading light . . . . . . . . . 25A
  
• 4; Spare
  
• 5; Hazard warning . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10A
  
• 6; Spare
  
• 7; Cigarette lighter, clock, interior lights, boot light, central door locking, radio . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 20A
  
• 8; Horns, heated rear window . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 25A
  
• 9; Electrically-operated windows . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 20A
  
• 10; Rear foglight . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5A
  
• 11; Tail light, number plate light . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5A
  
• 12; Spare . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5A
  
• 13; Instrument panel illumination, side lights . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5A
  
• 14; Fuel pump . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 15A
  

 

Fuses (1989 to 1991 - all models);

• 1; Reversing lights, tachometer, fuel gauge, warning lights (low battery charge, coolant temperature, oil pressure,
  low coolant level, brake system, choke). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10A
  
• 2; Direction indicators, gauges (fuel, oil temperature, coolant temperature, oil pressure), heater blower motor, warning lights
  (low battery charge, coolant temperature, oil pressure, low coolant level, brake system, choke) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 25A
  
• 3; Map reading light, stop-lights, windscreen and tailgate wash/wipe,
  tachometer, radio, glovebox light, electric windows, heated rear window . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 25A
  
• 4; Driving lights . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 15A
  
• 5; Hazard warning lights . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10A
  
• 6; Spare
  
• 7; Cigarette lighter, clock, interior lights, luggage compartment light, central locking, radio, power feed to tow bar . . . . . . . . . 25A
  
• 8; Horn, heated rear window . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 25A
  
• 9; Electric windows . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 20A
  
• 10; Rear fog light . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5A
  
• 11; Tail lights, number plate lights . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5A
  
• 12; Spare
  
• 13; Instrument panel illumination, side lights . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5A
  
• 14; Electric fuel pump . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 15A
  

 

Fuses (1991 models onward);

• 1; Reversing lights, tachometer, fuel gauge, warning lights (low battery charge,
  coolant temperature, oil pressure, low coolant level, brake system, choke). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10A
  
• 2; Direction indicators, gauges (fuel, oil temperature, coolant temperature, oil pressure),
  heater blower motor, warning lights (low battery charge, coolant temperature, oil pressure,
  low coolant level, brake system, choke, ABS) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 25A
  
• 3; Map reading light, stop-lights, windscreen and tailgate wash/wipe, tachometer, radio, glovebox light, heated rear window . . . . . . . . . 25A
  
• 4; Driving lights . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 15A
  
• 5; Hazard warning lights . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10A
  
• 6; Spare
  
• 7; Clock, interior lights, luggage compartment light, central locking, radio, power feed to tow bar . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 25A
  
• 8; Horn, heated rear window, cigarette lighter . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 30A
  
• 9; Electric windows . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 20A
  
• 10; Rear fog lights . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5A
  
• 11; Tail lights . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5A
  
• 12; Spare
  
• 13; Instrument panel illumination, side lights . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5A
  
• 14; Electric fuel pump . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 15A
  

 

Fuse from a phase 2 owners manual;

• 1; Reversing lights, tachometer, dim lights, fuel gauge, water in fuel sensor (diesel), warning lights (low battery charge,
  coolant temperature, oil pressure, low coolant level, brake system, choke). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10A
  
• 2; Direction indicators, fuel gauge, seaty heating, additional heater / ventilation pump, oil temperature guage, coolant temperature guage, oil pressure guage, heater/ventilation; air conditioning, warning lights (low battery charge, water in fuel, coolant temperature, oil pressure, low coolant level, brake system, choke, ABS) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 25A
  
• 3; Map reading light, stop lights, windscreen and tailgate wash/wipe(front & rear), tachometer,
  headlamp wash, radio ( accessories), glovebox light, heated rear window . . . . . . . . . 25A
  
• 4; Spot lights . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 15A
  
• 5; Hazard warning lights . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10A
  
• 6; Spare
  
• 7; Clock, interior lights, luggage compartment light, central locking, radio (+ permanent), power feed to tow bar . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 25A
  
• 8; Horn, heated rear window, cigarette lighter . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 30A
  
• 9; Electric windows . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 25A
  
• 10; Rear fog lights . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5A
  
• 11; Rear side lamps - left: number plate lamps. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5A
  
• 12; Rear side lamp - right. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5A
  
• 13; Instrument panel illumination, side lights . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5A
  
• 14; Electric fuel pump . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 15A
  

 

Graham.

[mogsman 2]

Thanks Graham, all sorted now.

Ian