Negative Camber Front Hubs.

[Rich_p 23]

I understand pts negative camber front hubs are somewhat rare and expensive.

 

Is there anywhere that can machine standard front hubs to give any amount of negative camber?

 

(Is this even possible?)

[Baz 421]

It is possible yes, it's the damper aperture of the hub carrier that can be machined, although i'm not sure the PTS ones were the same, i would've thought they were specially made to carry the hub to give the camber.

[woodsy 0]

Am i right in saying that Skip Browns road speed suspension conversion uses negative camber on all 4 wheels, iam sure they do

and maybe able to help.

[j_turnell 134 3 Cars]

I only thought SBC used neg camber on the rear.....

[tom_m 0]

nope woodsy is right, SBC used 'special' hub carriers to gain extra neg camber at the front. i've got a set knocking about. i'm hard pushed to see where the extra camber comes from, but it's definately there.

[j_turnell 134 3 Cars]

I stand corrected, be good see a couple of pics!

[Baz 421]

AFAIK, they machine the part of the hub carrier where the damper is held so that the hub sits slightly more angled, subsequently giving the camber.

[Capn. Pugwash 0]

AFAIK, they machine the part of the hub carrier where the damper is held so that the hub sits slightly more angled, subsequently giving the camber.

 

 

Yep, that's correct

A sleeve is added inside the carrier to get the diameter back down to standard. I got a set for my tarmac rally car and the difference is noticeable!!

[taylorspug 7]

How much extra camber do they give over a standard hub then?

[VisaGTi16v 1]

If only they were like the ones on my 172 where the strut bolts on to the side so you can either just slot the top hole yourself or spend £40 on eccentric bolts and get upto -3 ve depending on how much you turn them

[welshpug 1,645]

yeah, but use them hard on track or rough rallying, and they move

[Rippthrough 98]

Meh, high tensile capscrew in and crank her right up.

[Henry Yorke 269 3 Cars]

fit 405 hubs, wishbones and adapted shafts to a 309 for neg camber. That is what Pug 309 did on his errr........ Peugeot 309!!

[fast_eddie 0]

^ is this true Mr Oracle?

I would like some more camber on the front of my old girl soon! Curborough is beckoning again!

[Rich_p 23]

Does anyone have any pictures of the 309 set up mentioned or even of the skip brown hubs please?

[Baz 421]

Or just buy some decent suspension and some eccentric top mounts...

[Capn. Pugwash 0]

How much extra camber do they give over a standard hub then?

 

Mine give 1.5 degrees

[taylorspug 7]

Mine give 1.5 degrees

 

Thanks.

 

Is that 1.5 degrees when measured, or 1.5 degrees on top of the standard hub camber (which is around 0.5 degrees IIRC)?

 

Would be useful things to have, as you would have static camber 'in stock', so could use eccentric top mounts to dial in alot more caster.

Edited June 26, 2009 by taylorspug

[gti_al 1]

You can go further than the ones sam has. They came from casnell's rally car i think, and they were the one of the first ones done by a local guy. He now has a jig sorted, and does them really cheaply. A mate of mine is running 2 or 3 degrees - he can't remember exactly how much, as i asked him a few weeks back.

 

I'm sure someone with some machining skills could sort it without much trouble at all

[TT205 42]

I'm sure someone with some machining skills could sort it without much trouble at all

 

 

...... Rippthrough?

 

 

new product for you?

[Rippthrough 98]

...... Rippthrough?

 

 

new product for you?

 

I modified the struts on mine instead, easier

[Rich_p 23]

Please explain..

[welshpug 1,645]

offset bored sleeve and a smaller diameter strut casing I would think.

[Rippthrough 98]

Nope, twin tube front dampers with the bottom of the outer tube offset and the cap rewelded to keep the inner tube aligned.

[welshpug 1,645]