[trackday_prep] 309 Track Car

[welshpug 1,662]

beam looks broken

[oli-pug 6 2 Cars]

Cheers al, ill def be interested in some rear arms and the tre spacers soon. Not sure on the sleeved hubs yet because im currently running 7j rims with 205 width tyres and its tight on my gaz golds!

[allanallen 528 2 Cars]

Just thought I'd add to this, we can now machine the front hubs with the bearing in situ to any angle you desire

 

Look out for a thread shortly about bridgecraft services/products.

[EdCherry 34 1 Cars]

Perfect allen! Same prices?

 

Get this thread up quick or email us some prices for all the work you guys do.

[allanallen 528 2 Cars]

Perfect allen! Same prices?

 

Get this thread up quick or email us some prices for all the work you guys do.

 

Yep same prices, I'll pull my finger out and try and get a thread up before the week is out.

[EdCherry 34 1 Cars]

I.E. Later today? haha

 

When you can mate! No rush got to do some work to pay for it first.

[Rich_p 23]

I want a phase 1 again!

 

I'm liking the hub mods too.

 

Simple question, if one were to fit the sleeved hubs, say the -3 ones and didn't use the modded TRE design what issues would it cause?

 

Is it increased bump steer etc or have I got that horribly wrong?

[welshpug 1,662]

only potentially excessive inner shoulder wear, which is unrelated to the position of the TRE, the extended position is to correct bu7mp steer when running too low.

[allanallen 528 2 Cars]

I want a phase 1 again!

 

I'm liking the hub mods too.

 

Simple question, if one were to fit the sleeved hubs, say the -3 ones and didn't use the modded TRE design what issues would it cause?

 

Is it increased bump steer etc or have I got that horribly wrong?

 

Welshpugs Pretty much summed it up rich. You can run the modded hubs with the standard TREs. It will alter the angle it runs at slightly but it's still well within its limits.

 

On another note im aiming to go to the apex track day at oulton on the 4th of feb (weather dependant). Can't wait

[welshpug 1,662]

weather dependent? pfft, get some wets

[Tom Fenton 1,542]

Track day 309? PFT, get out there in the WANCA, you need the practise in the thoroughbred rally machine!!

[allanallen 528 2 Cars]

weather dependent? pfft, get some wets

I have, I just prefer it in the dry! It's all 'just for fun' remember

 

Tom, if it rains I might take the wanka and lap oulton on the grass (nothing unusual there though )

[Tom Fenton 1,542]

Just watch those round black things in piles, I think they are commonly known as tyre walls?

[Rich_p 23]

Digging up an old thread!

 

Any further developments with the car?

[allanallen 528 2 Cars]

Holy s*it! This is my thread!

 

Cars sat idle for a good while now whilst life gets in the way there's a few things in the pipeline and a very tasty mi16 engine on the cards so I can go racing

Promise I'll update as and when I do anything!

[Rich_p 23]

It happens doesn't it. Mine has been sat for a long time to. Occasionally getting bits bought for it from time to time which then sit on the roof!

 

Actually got round to fitting a new rear bumper at the weekend, it's the first time I've done anything for a while.

 

I'll be interested on any front suspension updates and experiences with the bits you've got on. Mines quite low but it looks good so would like to sort the geo and keep it at that height.

[allanallen 528 2 Cars]

I've done something!!! finally fetched it out of storage and down to my new house. Just swat a bucket of water over it, it gets rougher everytime I see it! Nice to have a little drive in it though, feels cool as fook

[Rich_p 23]

It looks more of a uniform shade of white than mine!

[allanallen 528 2 Cars]

Trying to get motivated on this a bit! I'm currently looking at making some adjustable bottom arms, I'll be using modded standard arms like the ones Tom and I made for the rally car. I'd like to make some proper tubular arms but replacing bushes with rose joints/spherical bearings will put my car in daft classes in some race series'

 

I'm also moving away from the modded 205/309 hubs in favour of 406 items, mainly because they're far easier to correct all the geo with. The hubs and extenders I'll be using are from martins deceased 306 project, I'll also be using his alloy damper bodies along with some new insterts, the bodies already have around a degree of neg camber machined into them.

 

The wishbones will be fairly straight forward although because of the different hub dimensions they'll end up being a bit longer than a standard 309 arms, the angle of the joint in the arm will also be a bit shallower. Obviously they'll require longer shafts to suit although there's a possibility a mix and match of 405 and 306 shafts may fit.

With these arms I'm using a 5/8 x 3/4 rose joint rather than the 3/4x3/4 joint we used on the rally car arms.

 

I'm moving to 17" wheels which I'm slightly reluctant about, I'm gonna try and run a bit lower too so I'll be looking into raising the rear beam in the car which I think will be a lot easier said than done!

 

Don't hold your breath for updates

[calvinhorse 870]

I think the 405 short driveshaft is the same as a 306

[rallyeash 155]

Really started liking 3dr 309's the last few years. Quite fancy a little project at some point...

[allye 530 3 Cars]

Remember they handle better ash

[rallyeash 155]

Yeah but it not compared to my 205... Well it could but cost a huge amount.

 

Kind of wish I offered sandy some money for his old 309 trio type R before it got parked up broken :-(

 

Do fancy a smart looking base model, gti bumpers, nice uprated road suspension and a decent engine. Nothing impractical like a highly tuned NA lump but something easy to drive and 200+ hp.

 

I bet you'll say V6 haha.

[allye 530 3 Cars]

Clio v6 engine

[Rich_p 23]

What's happening with the current modded hubs?

 

I may be interested in them.