Rear Gearbox Mount

[flipperthebushkangaroo 2]

OK so the worlds longest clutch change continues ,

despite several hours of sweating and swearing the gearbox refuses to be refitted without removing the rear engine mount (used a clutch alignment tool so should be lined up ok)

My questions are

1. should i just remove the bolt that goes through the rubber mount? or should i remove the mount from the engine?

 

2. while i have your ear how difficult is it to change the mount while its disconnected (do i need a press or the like?).

 

Thanks again as ever

 

Roddie

[Tom Fenton 1,542]

You shouldn't need to remove the lower engine mount. You do need to orient the gearbox so the diff housing sits above the subframe though.

 

The mount isn't that hard to remove, I once tried to fit a new one by hammering it in and that wasn't very successful, so have the new one pressed in if you can.

[Miles 331 1 Cars]

Remove the std and the speedo drive, this gives you allot more room to move

[grandos 16]

If you have the engine on a jack, with both the top and bottom engine mounts still attached, lower the engine down without taking all the weight off the jack as far as you can then as Tom mentioned put the diff above the subframe, make sure the input shaft is free to turn (neutral) and then its just man handling it into place.

Try to push it into place with the gearbox mount point upwards. May need to twist slightly once the splines are in the clutch to get the dowels on then bolt her up.

[dcc 855]

mate, to avoid ALL of these issues,

 

drop the subframe down, its about 6 bolts iirc. wish i did this, i ended up taking the engine out to do the box on my '6.

[Grim.Badger 15]

I tried doing it with the lower mount unbolted and the upper mount loosened most of the way and it can be done, but the gear selector thing gets in the way really badly and it's a right pain to get the box off this way; also I managed to break the release bearing getting it back on If you are careful this is the simplest way to do it, but the gearbox is an awkward peice of equipment and if you have the time I would do one of the above.

I'm not sure how you do it by removing it above the subframe though but if they say it can be done....

 

By far the easiest way of doing it is to remove the engine and box together and change the clutch outside of the car, but that's a much bigger job

[Tom Fenton 1,542]

I honestly can't see why people find this so hard. I have had the box in and out of my 205 twice in the last couple of weeks for test fitting stuff.

 

Get the car on a pair of stands under the subframe, not too high up. Get the gearbox under the car in roughly the right place, lift it from above and slide in a trolley jack. Use the trolley jack to raise it up whilst you manoever it into position, then its just a short grunt and wiggle to get it in place, and quickly whack a bolt in at the top to hold it. Then get two more bolts in to hold it to the engine, and then jack it up to get the mount on the battery tray done up. Then finish off the job at your leisure.

[flipperthebushkangaroo 2]

I honestly can't see why people find this so hard. I have had the box in and out of my 205 twice in the last couple of weeks for test fitting stuff.

 

Get the car on a pair of stands under the subframe, not too high up. Get the gearbox under the car in roughly the right place, lift it from above and slide in a trolley jack. Use the trolley jack to raise it up whilst you manoever it into position, then its just a short grunt and wiggle to get it in place, and quickly whack a bolt in at the top to hold it. Then get two more bolts in to hold it to the engine, and then jack it up to get the mount on the battery tray done up. Then finish off the job at your leisure.

 

 

Doing it like this, does the diff need to be quite high above the subframe to give clearance between the gearbox mount stud and the inner wing as i keep hitting the inner wing trying to align the box?

 

If not how do you get the clearance from the mount stud?

 

Sorry to be so dull but i am a lecky so these mechanical bits are a mystery to me

 

Thanks everyone for your advice

Roddie

[Tom Fenton 1,542]

Get the engine as low as you can without stressing the mounts too much.

[flipperthebushkangaroo 2]

Hello again all!!!!!

With a little help i seem to have cracked it box is on and the build continues, had to come home as i could not remember how the clutch cable goes sorted now though

Just one little cause for concern though, there does not seem to be any resistance when you push the clutch arm by hand seem to remember it being hard to fit the Little metal peg thing last time i changed the cable?

Will carry on and see what happens when i have fitted the cable fully.

Any advice gratefully received

 

Thank you all again for your advice

 

Roddie