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timmsy19

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timmsy19

Anyone know the mounting depth of the rear speakers at the thinest point

 

Looking to put some new speakers in but dont want to buy soem then realise they dont fit.

 

Also anyone know where the best place to get a stealth shelf from?

 

thanks

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DrSarty
Anyone know the mounting depth of the rear speakers at the thinest point

 

Looking to put some new speakers in but dont want to buy soem then realise they dont fit.

 

Also anyone know where the best place to get a stealth shelf from?

I have some recommendations for you. Firstly, there's a very detailed thread here which contains some useful info for you.

 

First off is one recommendation for buying a stealth shelf. Another one is these guys who've been doing it for years: Auto Acoustics.

 

Secondly, if you're going to have a stealth shelf (and the whole purpose of one of these is to hide the speakers within AND give a decent, weighty baffle to improve sound/bass performance), then why even bother with the rear OE position speakers?

 

The OE rear locations are sh1t; what you can fit in there is useless (as well as being fiddly); and you'll end up with more sound behind you than in front of you if you run speakers there AND in the shelf. This is your call of course as it's your money; but to quote what's said in the other ICE thread linked above, "you don't go to a concert and turn your back on the band".

 

You could use the money you would be spending on rear OE position speakers, which IMO will be of no use whatsoever and put it towards your stealth shelf, better speakers to put in it or even something else like quality front speakers/installation.

 

I sincerely hope this helps, as I'm as honest as the day is long and have been installing ICE for 19 years. I'm bleedin' knackered! :)

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chrisj21

Hi, As Rich has said the thread i started a few days ago has turned into a good source for ICE information.

 

From the advice in that thread im doing away with the rear oe speakers and going for a stealth shelf.I found one on the net for £55.00 which is linked in the thread, you just need to cut the holes for the speakers or the supplier can do this for an extra £20.

 

 

Chris

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timmsy19

Cheers guys

 

Rich the reason why i asked was i was just thinking about doing one of the two options :)

 

Think im going to go the stealth shelf route though

 

Thanks for the links Rich. Couldnt remeber the name of that company as its been a while since i looked into audio.

 

Not really sure i want 6x9's though any other decent options for the rear shelf?

 

Front setup is almost there ive got some pods for the front with some vibe components along with my nice new Alpine CDE-9880 HU

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DrSarty
Not really sure i want 6x9's though any other decent options for the rear shelf?

 

It's never a problem helping and sharing experience on here. Lots of people have done it for me and I'm getting the reward. Just trying to put something back.

 

Ref the rears: that's exactly my point. There's not a great deal of point in investing much money in those speakers. Named/recognised brand 6x9s are totally adequate (Kenwood/Sony/Pioneer/Alpine/JL(£)/Focal(£)), as they all handle good power, and there is nothing to gain by using components in the rear.

 

Sure, you can choose 6.5" or 8" round coaxial speakers, but the real benefit is zero. £40-50 on some ex-display or second hand (known source) 6x9s is all you need. They may have a chavvy rep, but they really do the job, leaving your money available for better things like installation needs, the best front speakers you can afford, wiring and amps. That's a general rule, not just for you.

 

Just to clarify, component speakers are split such that you can position the drivers to get best staging/imaging. Why would anyone use components in the rear? Coaxials are more than adequate, and as there are sooooo many 6x9s out there, prices are cheap, like the budgie. :)

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timmsy19

Yeah components will be staying in the front as sound quite good but just need to mount them in the pods as they make the standard speaker grills vibrate to buggery!

 

Looks like a set of 6x9's on the stealth shelf option is the way to go for the moment then.

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Rom

Rich has it spot on tbh.

 

6x9s are generally the way for the rear. Worth trying to have a listen to some. And considerign any changes you might make.

 

My 6x9s are no good for bass, but there very clear, which is what i wanted, as my sub play all bass. Its possibel to get some pretty bassy 6x9s if your not going to use a sub.

When i was young, my mates Nova had some, and they really were awesome for bass.

 

I think the standard rears are 10cm, though i cant remember, might be 13cm if not. Either way there small, and wont contribute much.

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