Which Airfilter For Tb's?

[Spiky 37]

ok, some know i bought a set of TB's but it didn't come with a filter

 

now, there are several options, but only 2 i think are worthwhile

 

1 itg on the back plate

 

2, bit like what dj mini has done (see pics)

 

my TB came with the back plate so i guesss option one is the best?

 

 

 

DJmini's setup

 

 

[engine killer 6]

will the second one give you pressurized air? also, will it be better if the filter locates an inch further back toward engine, the air will nnot be dragged away by high speed wind when cruising at high speed?

[Spiky 37]

i see what you mean

 

would it affect a car like a 205 though?

 

 

which would be the quiet'est of the both setups?

[engine killer 6]

i see what you mean

 

would it affect a car like a 205 though?

 

 

which would be the quiet'est of the both setups?

 

from my point of view for the second setup, the so called "pressurized" air may not be efficent enough to be noticed any advantage, but the cold air will simply rush into the cylinder whenever the throttle plate and the valve are opened instead of sucking by the piston down stroke.

 

you may need some sound deadening cloth (like the one stick under the bonnet, not those heavy mat) to wrap around the airbox and backplate in order to make it quiet. my previous 8v setup had an airbox and it's much quieter than my current 16v without an airbox. i guess the airbox did help to lower the noise.

[Spiky 37]

well my plan wasnt tio have the setup like DJ MINI's, well not completely,

 

if i decided to go the airbox route, i would stop it just behind the guttmann grill i going to get, so looking at the front of the car it would look semi normal, if that make sense?

[engine killer 6]

this setup was based on what i think is right regarding the rushing in cold air idea. wanted to do something similar to DJ MINI's, but have to lower and move forward the air-cond condensor and radiator, and use 2 pull type fan instead. it will cost me a lot but just for what i think is good. so plan declined.

[engine killer 6]

pictures attached

[Spiky 37]

thats a good idea, neat too

[Super Josh 4]

An ITG JC50 will fit straight on that backplate It will look like Sarty's one here

 

 

 

 

Josh

[Spiky 37]

ah cool, cheers for that Josh

[CaptainK 11]

ok, some know i bought a set of TB's

I didn't....... thanks.

 

Those setups look really good above. I can't wait until I get my ITBs as well. Will keep an eye on your posts Spiky so I can get some ideas for when I do mine. Good luck dude.

Edited March 10, 2009 by CaptainK

[Spiky 37]

I didn't....... thanks.

 

Those setups look really good above. I can't wait until I get my ITBs as well. Will keep an eye on your posts Spiky so I can get some ideas for when I do mine. Good luck dude.

 

 

lol

 

 

dont look like anyone wants an ecu full price by the look of it

[CaptainK 11]

dont look like anyone wants an ecu full price by the look of it

I've not been on 306 yet, but I thought there were about 5 or so people interested last time I looked ?

[rapidcossie 0]

I have the pipercross socks and have cut the rad cowling and removed the slam panel to get extra air into them as per pic of red car.

 

I was under the impression that an air filter has to be a certain distance away from the trumpets.

 

The ITG with the back plate looks too close to the trumpets.

Edited March 10, 2009 by rapidcossie

[Dj_mini 7]

What ever you do spiky dont use socks they sap power badly. We did a few runs with my mates 106 (SB 200bhp tu) the diffrence with and without the socks was a fair bit you can realy feel the diffrence.

 

Your never get possitive presure all you can do is reduce the heat soak coming up from the rad.

 

Dan

[Spiky 37]

What ever you do spiky dont use socks they sap power badly. We did a few runs with my mates 106 (SB 200bhp tu) the diffrence with and without the socks was a fair bit you can realy feel the diffrence.

 

Your never get possitive presure all you can do is reduce the heat soak coming up from the rad.

 

Dan

 

 

 

which do you think i should go with?

 

i did try ringing sandy today but his phone was off , such a busy man..lol

 

I have the pipercross socks and have cut the rad cowling and removed the slam panel to get extra air into them as per pic of red car.

 

I was under the impression that an air filter has to be a certain distance away from the trumpets.

 

The ITG with the back plate looks too close to the trumpets.

 

 

i really dont know if the itg is good or bad

[rapidcossie 0]

Spiky I have spent tim eon AVA rollers with the 205.

 

A good air flow makes 20 bhp difference and you need to try and keep the filter atlest 20mm from trumpet.

 

I also have a sheild blocking hot air from rad.

 

I tried runs with no socks, socks and hard k+n filters and power is no different as long as air feed is the same and distance is same.

Edited March 10, 2009 by rapidcossie

[Spiky 37]

so options 2 above, DJ mini's idea is probably best? though have the filter sit just behind the grill

[rapidcossie 0]

so options 2 above, DJ mini's idea is probably best? though have the filter sit just behind the grill

 

 

yeah DJ's looks good to me.

 

I have my bonnet raised by an inch at the front to further aid flow.

 

Looks kinda silly but I will cut the lip of the bonnet when I get time

Edited March 10, 2009 by rapidcossie

[Spiky 37]

DJ, whats the filter off?

[rapidcossie 0]

I wanted to drop the rad on my car to aid flow but couldnt cos my power steering pump is mounted under rad.

[Spiky 37]

DOH, i will be dropping my rad, ideall would like a smaller thicker rad,

 

whats your shield made of? any pics

 

any news on your coilovers?

[rapidcossie 0]

shield is just cardboard at the mo

 

Yeah being unable to drop rad is a bummer.

 

No news on coilovers, they guy is being a total c*nt.

 

Will prob just end up sending them to you and getting them checked and new inserts etc.

 

that ok?

[Spiky 37]

sheild i guess would need to be alloy or carbon fibre i guess, thought that carbon look plastic would be ok i guess nice and light.

 

you could send them here dude, not much i can do though, or just get the new inserts sent to you and you fit?

 

but if you want to send them here, i;ll have a look and fit new inserts and sent them back, thats cool too

[rapidcossie 0]

sheild i guess would need to be alloy or carbon fibre i guess, thought that carbon look plastic would be ok i guess nice and light.

 

you could send them here dude, not much i can do though, or just get the new inserts sent to you and you fit?

 

but if you want to send them here, i;ll have a look and fit new inserts and sent them back, thats cool too

 

 

Yeah the sheld really needs to reflect latent heat and direct the hot airflow away from the TB's.

 

My linkage is on the bottom so I dont have much room.

 

I understand what your saying on the shocks, I just want someome who knows what they are looking at to check them out for me as I dont want to have to go thru the hassle I had when fitting them the last time.

 

We tried every possible combination of top mount/spring/holder/height etc to see if we were getting it wrong somehow and it still bottomed out!