Help With Mi16 Not Starting!

[si-mi16 0]

hi all, i have a problem with my mi16 starting,got spark got fuel.

turns over fine and got it to fire up once but as soon as i applied throttle to keep it running it cut out(maybe gave it to much air)

 

haven't been able to get it fired up again so have given up for today.

 

What am i doing wrong?

 

Also anyone in the tamworth or surronding areas that think they can get my pug running, il sort you a good drink out,anyone willing to help

[col16vt 0]

hi mate may sound stupid but have you checked ign timing and cam timing

[Cameron 16]

Have you just done the conversion or has it been running before?

[GLPoomobile 958]

AFM mounted the right way around? Schoolboy error known to happen.

[si-mi16 0]

has been running before i change the head gasket

 

i changed most parts while head was off the cam belt seems fine as i have had it start briefly and turned it over by hand a few revolutions and timing looked spot on.

i think its purely down to the ignition side of things, but am not sure of how to go about sorting this out

[welshpug 1,677]

check the ecu temperature sender.

[si-mi16 0]

dont meen to sound daft but where and how do you meen check the ecu temperature sender

Edited January 17, 2009 by si-mi16

[dcc 855]

It is on the thermostat housing. blue plug, screws into the block. should have a blue plug on it anyways! (make sure you dont have the black plug on it which is meant for the SAD from the 8v!)

[philfingers 5]

check you're ECT using the PDF attached. As DCC said it's Blue and uses the blue plug

 

Phil

ECT.pdf

[si-mi16 0]

so would this sensor effect the starting of the car or the running??

[steve@cornwall 100]

so would this sensor effect the starting of the car or the running??

 

 

Won't start if not connected - will fire a bit then drown in fuel (not just flood )

[Tom Fenton 1,561]

On Jetronic 8v management this sensor would do that, but on 16v Motronic the car will still start and run, and put the engine management light on.

[si-mi16 0]

so what does this sensor look like again and where is it located and where should the cable from the sensor be going to??

 

 

 

sorry if i seem abit simple just havent sen this or heard of this before

[sorr 0]

Double check you do not have an air leak, I had the same symptoms and I had not put the pipe on the throttle body correctly

[si-mi16 0]

its one r1 bike carbs, dont think its an air leak though as when it did briefly fire up i applied some throttle and it cut out ,will be taking a look at this sensor this week sometime try find out this on going problem. good job this car isn't my daily drive. i've gone german for that

[S@m 156]

My Mi ran even when the ECU temp sensor was buggered but was severely overfuelling, failed the emissions test in style anyway! But i cant see how it would stop it starting, surely if you read the error codes off the ECU it will come up?

[Tom Fenton 1,561]

its one r1 bike carbs,

 

Talk about missing out a vital piece of information in your description of the problem. Ignore the blue sender it has f*** all to do with this now.

[si-mi16 0]

opps my bad , thought i did mention it as i do in most of my post, so if this blue sensor is not needed then what else could be the cause of my car not firing, just to make people aware the car is as standard engine wise apart from being on yamaha r1 bike carbs and 8v loom/dizzy convertor

[S@m 156]

Yeah, kinda missed a trick there, sorry bout that. Just wondered, what condition is the ignition amp in? and is it a dreaded intermotor part? They are pretty sensitive things, a bit of water, or a lack of thermal paste on the back can stop an Mi starting.

[si-mi16 0]

i have checked the wiring to the ignition amp and all seems well, where and why does the ignition amp require thermal paste as i have not known about doing this before on previous cars(non peugeot), sorry if a daft question new to the mi16 world

[dcc 855]

Its to help the transfer heat from the amp. can only compare it to a computer cpu using a heatsink without thermal paste (pointless basically)

[S@m 156]

You can get it from most computer shops, made a difference on mine anyway. Also i have tried brand new intermotor amps in the past that dont work straight out of the box, whereas a dirty second hand bosch one that was (and still is) fine.

[si-mi16 0]

ok thanks guys, so guess im on the look out for a second hand bosch ignition amp!

 

whats a good price i should be looking to pay for a second hand ignition amp then guys?

 

[dcc 855]

£10-15

 

they pop up on the bay quite often.

[si-mi16 0]

thank you mate, have found one on the bay will be buying it the weekend